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Chris Meeing (1040 and 1040-X ) Review April 12-2026

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[Chris Nero] 18:19:38

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Yes?

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There are times when…

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They tell you to raise your hands, and…

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And when they were praying, and I believe that

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Because…

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I believe because back in those days,

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They knew that our arms and our hands

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were antennas.

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And they knew that women and men, that men were, uh…

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Electrical at Women Were Magnetic, and…

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Um, they knew so…

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so many things that…

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They're codes that tell you to stay grounded, you know, keep your feet on the ground.

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And you'll see some guy out there, you know, plugging in some electricity into his tree.

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Um, I don't want to digress too much into the…

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limitation of…

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How much energies we have that…

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You could very simply…

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Raise your hand over your food.

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And tell it to be healthy.

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And it will become healthy.

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Because words…

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that we have of conviction.

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of belief, faith,

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As he told the woman who just touched his cloth,

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It wasn't… it wasn't he who healed her, it was her faith.

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And not that I'm trying to take anything away from any machines out there, but…

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The reality of it is that

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There has never been anything greater that has been created by our…

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higher power of our Creator.

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then he created us like sands of the ocean to be…

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magnified like kings and queens.

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We're sons and daughters.

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And so, for me,

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I can only speak from my own personal

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experience, as you all know, that have been with me.

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I don't sell anything except for what?

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I've been through what's worked, what hasn't.

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So, that's my opinion for two cents.

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Um, because for me, I've lived my whole life like that.

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And, um, I mean, I just use Dial soap.

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That's all I use. I don't use any lotions or, you know, anything. I mean, when I get… if I get white hair, I get white hair.

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Uh, and it's fine with me.

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Um, but…

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you know, it all depends on, you know, we want a better quality of life, we want to…

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We also want to be…

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Um, believers in the faith and in the hope

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that we have these powers…

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that we have been really just stolen from all this information.

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Because in the reality of it is, is that…

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We are the highest machinery, if you want to call it that.

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Uh, so… but I do like a lot of the stuff that's out there. I mean, we all do, and we've all been there, and we're all looking for it and searching for it, but…

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Um, I've just come to the conclusion that my stage of my life, where, you know,

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Where I'm just, like, you know,

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You live and do the best you can.

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And… and stay, um…

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as honorable and righteous as you can, so…

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Anyways, uh, Jason, are you here?

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Navy Barra, Jason, my Jason? Jason?

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Come in, Jason.

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Yes, can you make?

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All right. Man.

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Jason's the best swingman I've ever had.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:23:29

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Who is?

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Jason. Oh, yeah. I believe it.

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Jason.

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Yes. I am a…

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I'm the only winged man.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:23:35

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Barbecue!

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Say that again, Jason!

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I'm the only wingman!

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:23:43

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Well, don't discredit yourself, Will.

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Then we hear a holla! Hallelujah!

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Can we get an amen?

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But anyhow…

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Man, I'm gonna tell you, uh…

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:23:52

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Uh-huh. Did you say Batman? I'm sorry.

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You know, we all have a really…

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Well, I mean, uh, also, Chris, you know, like, taking supplements.

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Yeah, it's Batman.

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Uh, we did… we knew that.

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Yes.

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You know, so, you know, it's…

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Yeah, yeah, I just do… I just… I just do turpentine cleanse, and um, you know,

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No, he does a lot. Don't know.

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stuck it down with some sugar, and…

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He's got tons of cleansings and everything, and… but he takes this to, like,

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It's, uh, it's like a religion to him.

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Well, that's what the sauna is. It's all the light from the sun without the harmful UV rays.

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Okay, alright.

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So, the sun is just like a supplement, too.

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But yeah, you don't have to do it, you can still be healthy by just doing detoxes. I agree with Chris.

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I just… I just… I just… I just… I just like to… I just like to stare at the sun when I'm driving.

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You know? That's… that's where I can get my sungazing.

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Yeah, when you're driving, I don't…

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Not the time for me.

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Yes.

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This is what we can do now. Now…

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I do it in the morning and the evening.

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If I can, if it…

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I wanna… I wanna see how… I wanna see how far I can push my limits.

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Um, as I'm driving.

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Huh.

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But, nevertheless, um…

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All drinking turpentine.

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So…

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No, I mean, you know, look, there's a… it all… it just…

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Well, don't do that too much, at least till I finish this course.

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Everything sounds… everything… you know, I've often said that

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That's

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Our creator is a comedian, you know, everything that tastes bad…

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good for you, and everything that really tastes good, that, you know, Jason walks in and just

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eating, you know, all this…

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stuff that's… really, I know tastes good, but I know it's not going to be good for me.

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And I mean that, because, you know, when you start living your life

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And your whole…

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Um, you know, what you're eating and everything, drinking changes.

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Then when you… you… you smell or eat something different, it feels heavier.

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And it really does… it tastes great, but there's a price.

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And so I don't even want to go down that road, but…

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Um, everybody has to do and knows

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what their chemistry is. And so I, I just…

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I just know growing up in…

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I think me and Kim were speaking back in, you know, the 70s. There was… there was nobody running around, having you drink 12 bottles

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of water, you know, we would go to the hose, we'd, you know, there's a neighbor, we were walking a mile, we'd go to the hose, we'd take a drink, and that was it.

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And, uh, we weren't told, you know, we had to do this and wear that. It was just like, we made it through, and, you know, we're still strong, and…

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still going. So, I think it's discretion of everyone that they have to know

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Uh, what their limits are. But, um…

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All right, so I know everybody's here…

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Um, and you've, you've welcomed Jonathan. Jonathan is going to be a real asset.

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If I didn't feel that he would, he wouldn't be here. He's a friend.

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Uh, we're doing, you know, plan on doing some…

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business together, uh, as I do with all of you. Welcome…

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Uh, everybody here, and to collective souls.

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that you're here, um…

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Uh, because you've been, you know, I feel that you… you will be a real asset for the things that we're doing.

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So, um, everybody, um…

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embrace, and we need to get…

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Um, I want him to have… Jonathan to have the same opportunities, so…

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I've already discussed, we've come to the conclusion, as we have with all of us, that

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you know, everybody might have done something different at a different time, in a different place, but…

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I can only, you know, give you what has worked for me, and may work for you.

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Um, and uh, so we need to get, um,

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everything that he's gonna need, uh, Raina and Kim, um,

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Just to get them started on… see where he's at with his, um…

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predator stuff.

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Yep, sure, and John, we… Kim and I…

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Um, you can reach out to us anytime we're available.

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If we don't reply to you right away, we get back to you, but we do get back to you.

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So, anything you need from us, just, we're here as a group. We're all here, and any of us, you can post any questions or any concerns, or anything you have in the group.

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And we always go… you're always gonna have an answer.

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Yeah, I agree.

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Awesome.

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Okay, alright, so, um…

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Yep.

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Is Allie here?

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Allie?

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I'm here

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Yeah, because I can't see. This is new to me, but it's okay. It's kind of like, you know, that Charlie from Charlie's Angels kind of thing, right?

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Whoo! Man, my show, I'm my age.

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But anyhow, um…

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You know…

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Um, I want to get back to, uh, the 1040s.

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Uh, everybody, uh…

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that has been waiting patiently.

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And because…

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I've been…

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just going through…

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so many anomalies.

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And… I'm only going to focus on…

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the 1040, I'm not, you know, we could go on, I could, you know, tell you this happened, that happened, and all this other stuff in my life, but it's…

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irrelevant. We all want to focus on…

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how we're going to utilize

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the two… the, you know, the…

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Uh, to get your money from your bank that you have.

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And also, Jonathan, um…

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You will have, uh… there will be a plan

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of execution you will need to do.

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to do the private banking?

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Uh, there's a way, you know, we'll put in, you know, $10 million, and then you'll be able to pull out 250.

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out of there, and then we'll… we'll discuss all that.

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We have people on our…

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on our group here that we've done this, but

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In any circumstance where I have…

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made an error, or made a mistake.

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Uh, I'm… I will tell you right off the bat, I… I'm not here to bring any type of ego.

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As you all well know, um, and I've spoken with Kim and Raina on the side about

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this, where…

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When I first started, there's… when you have some things, and you're throwing everything out there.

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As I did.

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Even to the point to where I had

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so much frustration.

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Because I… I was, you know, I was… I was sent a letter saying there's identity theft, right?

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And, uh…

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I had been doing so many… you have no idea. I don't… that's why I don't judge anybody, because everybody's done so much crap.

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But they had asked me, you know, some questions, like my mother's maiden name, you know, all the private stuff.

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That we know. And they told me.

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No, this is wrong.

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And so they…

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They blocked everything, because my credentials weren't in order.

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Although you can get…

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you know, I guess you want to call it lucky.

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We can use that adjective.

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And you may, you know, get

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you know, good little chunk coming in. Yeah. We all know that. You know, we can…

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We can talk to Jim.

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You know, Jim received under a million six.

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But the clarity of that

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At the time,

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For Jim…

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He didn't comprehend what that… what happened at that time. So we know now…

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what it was. We know, for me,

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that in the time that I've been doing this,

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I've always been looking for consistency.

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what's been… what's been…

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unfortunate for myself, and I think a lot of other people,

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is that we find something that works,

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And then we're like, go to another toy, and then another system, and this.

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And then… that's what happened to me.

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I should have focused on…

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Every detail of that one event, or two events that worked.

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Looking for a pattern, why?

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Instead of going and trying to do something different,

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Um, but as time went on, I… I…

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I was able to get my credentials in order, I got… there was a few things I got lucky on, like, you know,

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able to do the BTCC,

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Depository Trust Clearinghouse Corporation.

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Uh, I mean, I was on there, I was fiddling around, um, and I got on there, and then I went… moved to Bloomberg, and…

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Um, on and on. These are all things that are goodies to have, but at this point, not something that

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is more for me down the road for…

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I want to, you know, do common law.

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Um, grand juries, and I want to start indicting judges.

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And that's where we're headed. This is my motive.

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why everybody's here. I know everybody…

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everybody has to get their credentials in order so they can do the 1099s, do the discharges, extinguishments, all that stuff.

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Uh, Jonathan, we also have Raina and Kim, who are doing their utilities.

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Um, and I think I wanna…

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Really quick, just jump in there. Uh, Raina, Cam, anything new, or that you guys still holding tight?

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Nothing, though, we're just holding tight.

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I wanna…

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Yep, same thing here. Nothing new yet.

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But Reyna… but Reyna, it's been 6 months!

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More than that!

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been 8 months, Raina, what's going on? They don't… they don't… you know why? Because they know that you know that they can't charge you.

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There is so… it's so insane. They don't… they don't even reply to anything, they don't even reply or call back when I leave voicemail, nothing. It's like…

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They are, like, ghost.

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Well, you know, silence says they agree, so…

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Yeah, a bunch.

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You might just want to just let them agree.

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How can you fight silence?

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lets them agree, because right now,

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Well, I… it's not about fighting silence. Sometimes you have to agree.

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with the silence, until…

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further notice, because right now…

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If you're going on 8 or 9 months, and they keep on, you know, balancing your…

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coupons, like you see.

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Uh, and then the other one just does quiet, uh, whether that's for you and for Kim.

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Uh, then… then that's great, because how can someone…

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who now knows that they've been caught,

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[] 18:35:11

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If they answer,

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[] 18:35:13

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They're not going to answer. Now they're going to turn into the private citizen.

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And they're going to take the fifth.

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Because they know they answer you.

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They will go to prison.

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And that's why, when you do FOIAs…

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Rather than freedom of your Information Act, which is military,

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[] 18:35:35

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They… they take the fifth.

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[] 18:35:37

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And they won't answer you. They say it's possible it could be there, I've showed you these.

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[] 18:35:42

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They will not answer because they become private citizens at that point, and take the fifth.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:35:48

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Facebook!

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And that's why you have to go into a military FOIA.

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[] 18:35:53

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But, um, on the 1040s,

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[] 18:35:56

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Jason, um, and if you want to…

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[] 18:35:59

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put the screen up for everybody else out there.

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[] 18:36:03

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Uh, so we can go through it.

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[] 18:36:06

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Uh, that's fine, I have… I have…

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[] 18:36:08

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I have it here in my mobile, too, so…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:36:10

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Yeah, I have… I have it ready, Jason, I can pull it up.

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[Chris Nero] 18:36:10

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Okay, give me one second.

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[Chris Nero] 18:36:14

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Oh, you have it? Perfect, thank you, Raina.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:36:15

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Yeah, you walk.

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It's… Jason… Jason, stay there, don't…

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[] 18:36:20

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Don't try to be Houdini, hold on.

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[Chris Nero] 18:36:22

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Nope, I'm here. There's nowhere else I can go.

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[] 18:36:26

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Ooh, don't…

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[] 18:36:28

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I did put those… those… those, uh…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:36:31

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And everybody see my screen?

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[] 18:36:32

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Those chains on pretty tight.

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[Chris Nero] 18:36:35

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Yeah, I can't get out this time.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:36:37

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Yep, I can see it.

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[] 18:36:43

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Okay, so…

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[] 18:36:51

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Let me pull this up.

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[] 18:37:00

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Okay. So, everybody knows the standard first page.

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[] 18:37:07

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Uh… does anybody know… see anything different right off the bat?

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[] 18:37:11

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on the 1040.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:37:16

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Yes, you're losing your social security number?

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[] 18:37:20

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And my name. Okay.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:37:21

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And your name, yeah.

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[] 18:37:23

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Yes, and the reason for this is, remember,

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[] 18:37:27

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Number one, everything is always connected to your socials.

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[] 18:37:31

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No matter where you go, it's always gonna follow you.

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[] 18:37:34

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And your birth certificate. That's me and my shadow. That's the song.

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[] 18:37:39

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Okay. So…

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[] 18:37:42

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The reason I did this… now, remember, the trust…

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[] 18:37:47

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the trust.

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[] 18:37:48

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extinguish the debt.

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[] 18:37:50

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But now we're switching…

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[] 18:37:53

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Because we're gonna do an amended…

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[] 18:37:57

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And I'm going in…

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[] 18:38:00

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Uh, just individual.

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[] 18:38:03

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Singles.

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[] 18:38:06

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Now, does everybody see how…

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[] 18:38:08

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It's just real simple, there's nothing on that first page.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:38:15

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Yes. I can see it's real simple.

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[] 18:38:15

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Jason?

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[] 18:38:20

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Okay, and then we're going to go to…

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[] 18:38:24

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Page 2…

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[] 18:38:27

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And then we have 25B…

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:38:29

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202

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[] 18:38:30

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Right?

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[] 18:38:34

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And then you have 25D.

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[] 18:38:40

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And then 913, 913, 913-5…

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:38:44

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This one right here? Sitting right here!

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:38:47

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Oh, uh…

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[] 18:38:47

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Okay, then we're gonna… then we're gonna go the 1040X.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:38:53

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Wow, I'm, I'm gonna…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:38:53

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Tim, can you mute yourself?

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[] 18:38:53

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You guys see the 1040X?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:38:55

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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[] 18:38:58

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You guys see the 1040X?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:39:02

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Yes.

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[] 18:39:05

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Okay, so the 1040… the 1040X…

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[] 18:39:13

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Do you see number 12?

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:39:22

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Yes.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:39:22

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12, we see 12.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:39:24

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Payments, under payments.

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[] 18:39:26

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9-13, yeah.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:39:27

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Mm-hmm.

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[] 18:39:27

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Right, and then you see the parentheses, right?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:39:29

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Yeah, cancel each other out.

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[] 18:39:31

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Everybody knows what the parenthesis…

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[] 18:39:33

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Everybody knows parentheses means negative.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:39:36

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Negative. Negative and a positive.

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[] 18:39:42

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Okay, so…

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[] 18:39:45

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All you gotta do now?

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[] 18:39:51

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Just follow the instructions on whatever that number is. So, if you have transcripts,

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[] 18:39:57

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This is just one of my mortgages.

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[] 18:40:01

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As I started looking at

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[] 18:40:04

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My many, many, many, many, and I mean many, I'm not even gonna say it because it's too ridiculous.

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[] 18:40:09

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of my 1099-OIDs that I got back.

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[] 18:40:12

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As I sat there,

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[] 18:40:15

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with my lamb.

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[] 18:40:17

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noticing the pattern of box number 4…

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[] 18:40:21

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was bolded on every single one, except for the ones…

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[] 18:40:26

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That I did in the past.

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[] 18:40:28

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Correctly.

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[] 18:40:31

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And that means I left the withholding out.

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[] 18:40:35

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So…

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[] 18:40:38

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Let's stick with… does anybody…

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[] 18:40:41

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want to play the IRS?

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[] 18:40:43

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Is everybody clear, first of all, on…

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[] 18:40:46

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How simple the 1040 is.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:40:48

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Thanks,

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:40:50

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I'm clear

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:40:51

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Unclear.

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[Ally] 18:40:54

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So there's nothing else, um, below that, right?

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[Ally] 18:40:57

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That's…

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[] 18:41:00

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No, whatever's there, you'll see. It's just maybe 1, 2, 3…

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[] 18:41:06

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five areas.

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[] 18:41:07

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And then don't forget to sign.

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[Ally] 18:41:10

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Of course.

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[] 18:41:11

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Okay.

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[Ally] 18:41:12

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Most common mistake. I'm just kidding.

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[] 18:41:15

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Yeah, well, it does happen. I mean, you know, I'm guilty of it myself.

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[] 18:41:22

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Um, but…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:23

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Chris, do you want me to pull up the 1099 OID?

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[] 18:41:28

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Yes.

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[] 18:41:32

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So, what would happen before…

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[] 18:41:35

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For all of us.

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[] 18:41:38

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This is me doing the opposite.

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[] 18:41:41

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Looking for consistency.

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[] 18:41:44

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And did no withholdings.

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[] 18:41:46

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As opposed to…

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[] 18:41:49

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doing the withholdings.

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[] 18:41:53

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Does anybody know why…

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[] 18:41:58

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And how much of that $913,500

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[] 18:42:02

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that I…

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[] 18:42:05

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Signed for on that promissory note to the mortgage?

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[] 18:42:09

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Wherever that person was,

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[] 18:42:11

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Does anybody know how much

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[] 18:42:13

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that I should be withholding in box number 4?

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:18

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Anama?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:19

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Yeah, the amount, the same amount, 913.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:22

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So why?

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[Ally] 18:42:23

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24%?

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[] 18:42:27

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And Ally, why do you think 24%?

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[Ally] 18:42:32

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I… it's not my, uh… I did not come up with that on my own, it's from another group.

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[Ally] 18:42:40

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But, um, I guess tax or interest, that's what we're claiming, right?

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[] 18:42:41

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Yeah.

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[] 18:42:45

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Now, no, no, that's just…

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[] 18:42:48

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That's the creation.

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[] 18:42:50

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Trying to tell the creator,

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[] 18:42:53

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what to do. That's all.

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[] 18:42:55

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But, Allie.

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[] 18:42:59

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Do you… you do… does everybody here know, and this is directed to Allie, so Allie,

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[] 18:43:05

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If I sign a promissory note,

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[] 18:43:08

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And then I handed over…

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[] 18:43:10

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to ABC Lending.

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[] 18:43:14

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And they put it as an asset.

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[] 18:43:19

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And a liability.

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[] 18:43:21

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Would you say that that promissory note is a negotiable instrument at that point?

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[] 18:43:31

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Would you say it's a security?

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[] 18:43:36

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Remember, if they took it,

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[Ally] 18:43:37

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Yes.

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[] 18:43:39

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Okay, so… so it's a security…

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[] 18:43:42

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And is… does… would everybody agree with me that…

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[] 18:43:48

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a security is a debt.

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[] 18:43:53

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Negotiable instrument security is a debt.

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[] 18:43:56

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Would everybody agree with me?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:43:57

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Mm-hmm.

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[] 18:43:59

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It's not a trick question.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:44:00

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No, it is correct.

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[] 18:44:04

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Okay, so… if your promissory note

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[] 18:44:10

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is handed over.

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[] 18:44:12

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I'm handing it over to you, Allie.

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[] 18:44:15

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And you have now…

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[] 18:44:18

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taken over this debt instrument.

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[] 18:44:22

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that they call a negotiable security, a negotiable instrument.

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[] 18:44:26

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You now have it.

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[] 18:44:29

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You are now holding a debt instrument, Allie.

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[] 18:44:32

Line 1292

What does that make you?

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[] 18:44:34

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A lender or a debtor?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:44:42

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lender.

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[] 18:44:43

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I'm sorry?

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[] 18:44:45

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Anybody else? Any takes?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:44:51

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But she's the corrector.

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[Ally] 18:44:54

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If I'm holding the debt, though, then I'm

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[] 18:45:01

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If Allie takes the security,

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[] 18:45:05

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The negotiable instrument.

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[] 18:45:07

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And she took it and put it as an asset and a liability.

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[] 18:45:13

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And that…

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[] 18:45:15

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instruments is a debt instrument. That is a fact.

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[luke ] 18:45:18

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It's a debtor.

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[] 18:45:19

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Because all…

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[] 18:45:21

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Okay, so who said she's the debtor?

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[luke ] 18:45:24

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Luke?

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[] 18:45:27

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That's right. So, Luke…

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[] 18:45:29

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You've identified her as the adapter.

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[] 18:45:34

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Correct?

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[luke ] 18:45:36

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Yeah, that's, like, the banks.

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[luke ] 18:45:39

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But they trick us.

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[] 18:45:42

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Okay, all right, so…

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[] 18:45:44

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If… if…

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[] 18:45:48

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Allie is holding the debt

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[] 18:45:51

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And it is Maker the Depthor.

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[] 18:45:55

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then…

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[] 18:45:57

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If I gave her…

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[] 18:46:00

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That's note of value, and she went and she did whatever she did with it.

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[] 18:46:06

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And she's the adapter, who's the creditor?

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[luke ] 18:46:12

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You are.

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[] 18:46:14

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That's right.

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[luke ] 18:46:15

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We are.

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[] 18:46:16

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I am… that's right, we are, because we created…

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[] 18:46:21

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the value, the consideration is the value of our time that's exchanged.

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[] 18:46:27

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Yes, you can still contract with someone, but it's…

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[] 18:46:30

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And it's never gonna not make you the creditor.

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[] 18:46:35

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Right?

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[] 18:46:39

Line 1403

Because where did that…

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[] 18:46:42

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Where did that… that credit come from? It was our credit.

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[] 18:46:49

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So, let me give… let me… is everybody on the same…

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[] 18:46:53

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Uh, wavelength with me right now.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:46:55

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Yeah, we are.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:46:57

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Yeah.

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[] 18:47:00

Line 1421

So, on the credit… we're the creditor whenever we sign something.

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[] 18:47:04

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Credit card…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:47:06

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So I'll signature creates the credit.

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[] 18:47:10

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That's right, and the credit…

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[] 18:47:14

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is the value of consideration.

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[] 18:47:22

Line 1436

So,

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[] 18:47:25

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If the bank or the credit card people…

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[] 18:47:30

Line 1442

are really…

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[] 18:47:32

Line 1445

our customers.

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[] 18:47:38

Line 1448

You guys see that?

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:47:40

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Yeah.

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[] 18:47:43

Line 1454

Our utility companies.

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[] 18:47:46

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There are customers.

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[] 18:47:52

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American Express.

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[] 18:47:55

Line 1463

There are customers.

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[] 18:47:57

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See, they can… they can walk anytime they want, and you think that they're closing off your account, they're closing off their account.

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[] 18:48:08

Line 1469

But once you know they're gonna close their account, you can go back and get your… you can go back and get your money.

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[] 18:48:14

Line 1472

Because every time they ran your credit, it's $2 million.

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[] 18:48:20

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When they deny your credit, that's $2 million.

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[] 18:48:27

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They broke the law under the Equal Opportunity Act, because…

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[] 18:48:32

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We have an unlimited amount of credits.

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[] 18:48:36

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and say you don't have the authority.

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[] 18:48:41

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So once they know you know,

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[] 18:48:44

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They'll give you the loan, then, you know, they'll still give you the loan, you gotta play the game, and then you can extinguish that.

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[] 18:48:50

Line 1493

But anyhow, so…

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[] 18:48:54

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The 1099-OID, does everybody see…

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[] 18:48:58

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Box number 4.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:07

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Yeah.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:49:10

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Yeah.

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[] 18:49:11

Line 1508

Yes.

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[] 18:49:13

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The only thing that's changed from that 1099-OID has been what, guys?

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[] 18:49:23

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As of today.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:49:25

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It's in handwriting?

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[] 18:49:29

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The only thing that's changed…

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:49:30

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It's handwritten?

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[] 18:49:32

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is that it's handwritten,

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:49:34

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Mm-hmm.

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[] 18:49:35

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And it has box number 4 withheld.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:49:40

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Yes.

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[] 18:49:42

Line 1538

Does… does anybody know from our… the last conversation where I left off…

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[] 18:49:48

Line 1541

why we're putting it…

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[] 18:49:50

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In box number 4.

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[] 18:49:56

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Does anybody know?

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[Ally] 18:49:58

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Because it's supposed to be 24…

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[Ally] 18:49:59

Line 1553

percent tax withheld?

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:50:02

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Is that balance in the books?

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:50:04

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Right.

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[] 18:50:06

Line 1562

In order for you to… in order for you to balance the books, this is what happens, guys.

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[] 18:50:12

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They go, they being, let's just say,

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[] 18:50:16

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the so-called banks. Lender.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:50:20

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I couldn't tell, it's so quiet.

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[] 18:50:20

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They took my 9… they… they…

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[] 18:50:23

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They took my $913,500.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:50:27

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I got only 10 seconds.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:27

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Hold on, Chris, one second. John, can you mute yourself, please?

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[] 18:50:28

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Okay?

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[] 18:50:34

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Okay, so… they took my $913,500.

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I was blind one time, and now I see.

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Because, you know, I…

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[] 18:50:47

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I had to go get that spiritual operation.

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Rise open to the sky, and just get…

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[] 18:50:54

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that blindness off of me, and I became self-realized, right?

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[] 18:51:00

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And I… I… I… I discovered…

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[] 18:51:03

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that I gave them $913,500 that they never paid me back.

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[] 18:51:09

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Not only am I upset about that, but now I'm upset that they monetized it times 10.

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[] 18:51:15

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They've pulled it out…

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[] 18:51:17

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into a pooling…

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[] 18:51:20

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made it into a trust, a real estate investment trust,

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[] 18:51:26

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And now, that's not enough, they disguised it, and they put it into junk spawns, municipal bonds,

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[] 18:51:32

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And are trading it right now.

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[] 18:51:38

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But here's the business, folks.

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[] 18:51:41

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I got a mind.

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[] 18:51:43

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my own business.

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[] 18:51:47

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My own business was I gave them $913,500.

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And I never got it.

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[] 18:51:55

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Not one penny.

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If I don't get that credit back and balance my books

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in my private account,

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[] 18:52:11

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then I'm going to be considered negligent.

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[] 18:52:16

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So, I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna claim it.

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But the 1099-A.

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[] 18:52:24

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And then I'm gonna forgive it.

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[] 18:52:26

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I'm gonna forgive them for their sins, for…

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[] 18:52:28

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They know not what they do.

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[] 18:52:32

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I'm gonna extinguish that debt.

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[] 18:52:37

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And then, after 3 days, after 72 hours,

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I wanted to come back and arise and originate back.

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[] 18:52:47

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between 4 to 6 weeks.

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Because those credits…

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belongs to the beneficiary.

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And I am the trustee.

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[] 18:53:01

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And I do not want to be charged with derelict duty.

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[] 18:53:06

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So, it's much more serious than what you think.

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You can think about credits coming to you, and that's beautiful.

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[] 18:53:13

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But the reality is of it, is that…

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[] 18:53:16

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you're balancing

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[] 18:53:20

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national deficit.

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[] 18:53:22

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And you're not a tortfeasor, you're not an enemy of the state.

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[] 18:53:26

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You're doing what you're supposed to be doing, like the ancients.

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[] 18:53:31

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Even after they came from the Pharaoh, and they were… the Red Sea was parted, they walked for a whole generation murmuring, because

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They were scared. Their eyes were closed.

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[] 18:53:45

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The whole time, they…

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They were free.

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[] 18:53:52

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And that's what we have to do.

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[] 18:53:55

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And the 1099…

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[] 18:53:57

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has to come back to you. You're the originator.

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[] 18:54:02

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Whose interest? Your interest.

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[] 18:54:04

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Original interest.

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[] 18:54:09

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And you have to get those

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[] 18:54:11

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Those dividends back, this yours, all yours!

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So, whenever somebody asks you,

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Why in the hell do you think you're gonna get $913,500? I'm gonna say, shut the fuck up.

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That's mine.

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I took the responsibility, I claimed it, I extinguished it.

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And I'm getting it back for my energy.

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[] 18:54:35

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What you guys need to be doing is going after those other sons of a bitches,

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And you need to go after them, because they're… they're… they could be all over the damn place, all over the world, doing all types of nasty crap with that money that they created off of my note.

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Matter of fact, why don't I just fill out a 211, a whistleblower?

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[] 18:54:55

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In the 3949A, and you go out there and you do your job.

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[] 18:55:00

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How about everybody have some guts and start standing up to our public servants?

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[] 18:55:04

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We're the national treasures.

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[] 18:55:07

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Every single one of us has a… we're all treasury.

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We all have a Treasury account.

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[] 18:55:15

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We're now with the damn IRS, we're at the damn… we're at the IRS.

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[] 18:55:25

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I told Kim the other day when she called in, I said, did you ask him why?

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Somebody's looking in there,

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[] 18:55:33

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get their name,

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[] 18:55:36

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And you want to find out after you get their name,

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[] 18:55:40

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by who's… whose authority?

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[] 18:55:42

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What are you doing looking into my account? For what?

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[] 18:55:46

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Your job is to give me what I said and sent in there.

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[] 18:55:51

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That's it.

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[] 18:55:53

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Do you have a form… do you have a fiduciary Form 56?

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[] 18:55:58

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Do you have a 56F?

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[] 18:56:01

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You have a 2848.

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[] 18:56:03

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So, what are you doing?

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[] 18:56:06

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I told… I ask… I'll ask all of you.

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[] 18:56:11

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If somebody goes into your checking account right now,

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[] 18:56:18

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Can you see them at the grocery store, wherever you go, gas station, whatever, and they tell you,

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[] 18:56:23

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that they know what's inside your account. Would you be pissed off?

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Would you be, what the hell's going on?

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Because that's what… that's equivalent to what's going on at the IRS.

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[] 18:56:36

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If you have your credentials in order,

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[] 18:56:39

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then you can speak to them with full…

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[] 18:56:43

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pledge.

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Authority.

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He just caught somebody.

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Then, you go up the ladder.

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[] 18:56:55

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Some of us here have written letters to the FBI.

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I've written letters to the FBI, the CID, the Inspector General,

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Attorney General…

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[] 18:57:08

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Treasury, retail…

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you know, they need to start seeing our names flowing through the veins of the commercial…

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[] 18:57:15

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river out there.

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[] 18:57:17

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All these other cats out there, you know, that are only talking about it. Nobody's doing jack shit.

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[] 18:57:29

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True.

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Anybody have any questions on the 1099-OID?

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[] 18:57:45

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Okay, so listen.

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This only works.

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[] 18:57:52

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If you have your transcripts,

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[] 18:57:55

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And you have credits,

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[] 18:58:00

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We're negatives.

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[] 18:58:03

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Either way.

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[] 18:58:09

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You can pull either one out.

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[] 18:58:13

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But for those who have already done the 250 or whatever that

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[] 18:58:18

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You can now go back in,

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[] 18:58:21

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Use the same simple process.

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It's so simple. Can you imagine?

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And you know why I believe it's simple? It's simple because…

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We have the authority.

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[] 18:58:35

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And I really believe that you could just

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[] 18:58:38

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you know, handwrite it in there, but you gotta play the game.

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It's a game. It's a big casino.

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[] 18:58:50

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And once you get that,

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Send it out, certified.

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[] 18:58:57

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Make sure they sign for it, so you know.

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And that's it.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:59:07

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Okay, so let me confirm this. We're sending out the 1099-OID, the two letters, the 1040 and the 1040X.

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[kimberlybyrd] 18:59:15

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That's it.

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[] 18:59:18

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That's it.

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There's 4 pages. The 1040, the 1040X, 2 and 2.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:59:25

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And the 56…

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[] 18:59:26

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1099OID, I…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:59:29

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56, 56F, 28, 48.

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Um, you may…

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[luke ] 18:59:37

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First, does it matter if…

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[] 18:59:40

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Yeah, I don't… I mean, it's up to you. You can do your… your 56, your 56F, your 28, 48.

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[] 18:59:47

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Um, you know, use your discretion, your discernment, okay?

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[Jonathan Colwell] 18:59:54

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Well, we… I have a question.

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[] 18:59:54

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For me, I like to get it in as many…

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[] 18:59:58

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As many times as possible. Go ahead, Jonathan.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 19:00:01

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Well, we get, um, kind of, uh, written instructions of this, like a step-by-step process?

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[Jonathan Colwell] 19:00:07

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At some point?

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You will. We have a whole, um…

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[] 19:00:13

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I think we have, like, a little…

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[] 19:00:17

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ebook or something, but we have it put together.

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[] 19:00:20

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All these would be done, but I want you to, you know, the first thing I want you to get is the, uh…

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You know, the credentials and…

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[] 19:00:28

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And stuff like that going.

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[] 19:00:30

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Um, but, you know, as fast as you go is as fast as…

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As, uh, you know, you may continue, um…

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[] 19:00:38

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you're your own person, so…

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[] 19:00:39

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You have to have responsibility for, you know,

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[] 19:00:43

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what you can take on.

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[] 19:00:45

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Uh, for those, Allie and Nicole, um, are you guys pretty much… where you at with your credentials and your…

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[] 19:00:53

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predators.

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[] 19:00:55

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package.

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[Ally] 19:00:57

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I still need to finish mine.

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[] 19:01:01

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That's Nicole.

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[Ally] 19:01:03

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I feel I'm holding… no, it's Allie.

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[Ally] 19:01:05

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I feel like I'm holding people back to, I need to get it done.

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[Ally] 19:01:11

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I…

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[] 19:01:11

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Okay, Ali.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:11

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Come on, Ali!

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[Ally] 19:01:13

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I know.

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[] 19:01:17

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Allie, give me a time frame.

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[] 19:01:22

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Yeah, I don't want to have… I don't want to be like the Jehovah's.

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[] 19:01:26

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Where every time you turn around, or… what was it, Scientology?

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[] 19:01:30

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And every time you turn around, somebody's…

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[] 19:01:32

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you know, calling you, but, um…

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[] 19:01:34

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a need for everybody to…

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[] 19:01:37

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you know, check up on Allie.

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[Ally] 19:01:41

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I appreciate that.

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[Ally] 19:01:43

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No, I appreciate it. I am.

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[] 19:01:43

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The way the Scientology people work.

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[Ally] 19:01:46

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Yeah.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:01:47

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I have a question. Chris, I want to just go back. Can you put the 1099 OID up there, Raina, for one second? I just want to confirm something.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:55

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Sure, give me a sec.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:02:09

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Okay, so I'm looking at this, because we did this one for the $250K.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:02:14

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So now… wait a minute, wait a minute, one second.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:02:22

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Give me a second.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:02:24

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Um, I do have another question, uh, Chris, while we wait on Kim.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:02:28

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So, the two… the one we did for the 250, do we have to do the same 1099 OID for the 10 million and the 10K?

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Mm-hmm.

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No, no, no, no.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:02:39

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Or just for the $2.50.

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No, whatever you've done,

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[] 19:02:45

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on a no ID, you need to…

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[] 19:02:48

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go back…

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[] 19:02:50

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And do the same process I just gave you today.

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Whether it's $10,000, $250…

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[] 19:02:56

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300, whatever it may be.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:02:59

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Okay.

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Because even if you did your 1099,

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And you withheld.

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[] 19:03:07

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On box number 4.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:03:08

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Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:03:10

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It won't coincide

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[] 19:03:14

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um, and synchronized with…

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[] 19:03:16

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the last 1040.

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[] 19:03:17

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You did. That's…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:03:21

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Go ahead.

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[] 19:03:21

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comprehend?

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:03:22

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Yeah, gotcha.

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[] 19:03:26

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everybody. So, what I'm saying to you is that it has to be… everything has to…

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:03:27

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Yep.

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[] 19:03:31

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go in and connect.

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[] 19:03:34

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on one event.

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[] 19:03:36

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Okay? So, yeah, you know…

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:03:37

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Okay, so…

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[] 19:03:40

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Go ahead.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:03:41

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Oh, no, I was just saying, so we need to go back and do a 1099-OID for the other two, the one mil…

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:03:47

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That we did for $250K, and for the $10,000 for maintenance, correct?

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:03:53

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For the 252 came, because we had… we're doing a 1040 with the… we previously did a 1041.

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[] 19:03:54

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Correct.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:04:00

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So we gotta change it over to the 1040.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:04:00

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Yeah.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:04:02

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Correct. It should…

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[] 19:04:03

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So, but here's… but…

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[] 19:04:05

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But here are the pros, guys.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:04:07

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Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:04:08

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For those of you, like, Jonathan, you're here new, but…

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[] 19:04:12

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Everybody here, I believe,

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[] 19:04:14

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that's done this has…

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[] 19:04:16

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1099s that they've received OIDs back.

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[] 19:04:20

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from the IRS, so that's beautiful.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:04:23

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Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:04:23

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That's your confirmation.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:04:25

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Right.

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[] 19:04:25

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And some that have them on their transcripts.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:04:28

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Correct.

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[] 19:04:29

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Either way, if you get it back from the IRS,

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[] 19:04:33

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And they put it into your trust.

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[] 19:04:36

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Because your trust is private, because you see, you didn't do your OID, and with old.

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[] 19:04:43

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So the system is taking…

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[] 19:04:46

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your credits, like they've done with mine.

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[] 19:04:49

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And I'm talking a whole bunch!

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[] 19:04:53

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But because I have all the 1099s,

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[] 19:04:57

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I can…

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[] 19:04:59

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You know, when you… when you… when you've mastered…

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[] 19:05:02

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something.

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[] 19:05:04

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You don't even need to see your transcripts.

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[] 19:05:07

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You have your OIDs.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:05:09

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Okay.

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[] 19:05:10

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You already know your trust… you already know your trust is private. They already know that…

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[] 19:05:14

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they can send, they can only put it…

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[] 19:05:18

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into, like, a little box where they hold all your credits.

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[] 19:05:22

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Until you claim them.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:05:24

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Right.

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[] 19:05:24

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Sometimes you might have to do an IRS Form 982, like I've told you, for…

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[] 19:05:30

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Um, you know, subrogating.

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[] 19:05:33

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But for the most part, not even that's gonna work, because…

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[] 19:05:38

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those big, bolded… on your 1099…

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[] 19:05:41

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1099 OIDs, that box number 4 that's bolded.

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[] 19:05:46

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is bolded because you didn't withhold anything.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:05:49

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Mm-hmm.

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So you need to withhold

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[] 19:05:53

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Everything!

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:05:56

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Okay. Okay, so let me…

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[] 19:05:58

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Because everything's being with… every… everything… everything's been withheld from us out here, everything.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:04

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Okay.

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[] 19:06:04

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All your bank statements for the year?

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[] 19:06:06

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All your bank statements for the year?

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[] 19:06:09

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With the help.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:10

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Right.

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[] 19:06:11

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And all those are credits from the public.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:14

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That's true. So, let me ask you this question.

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[] 19:06:16

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But because… but because I…

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[] 19:06:19

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Go ahead.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:19

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No, go ahead, go ahead, finish saying what you're saying.

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[] 19:06:23

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No, no, no, please, go ahead.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:26

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I was trying to get this out, Chris.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:29

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So the… I'm looking at the 1099-OID that Raina has on the screen.

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[] 19:06:30

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Go ahead.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:35

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And because this is going with our social security number, when we do a 1099-OID now, because the check is not going to your trust,

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[] 19:06:36

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Uh-huh.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:45

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Correct. It's gonna go to you, the check will come to you, so now we don't have to fill out the recipients. The payer's tenants, our social security number. Recipient tenants should not be filled out, and there's no account number. Am I correct?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:06:59

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And there's no recipient name and address.

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[] 19:07:05

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Um, it'll come… yeah, it's gonna come back to our address, wherever that address is.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:10

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So it would come back to the payers, name and street name, correct?

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[] 19:07:12

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the check.

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[] 19:07:15

Line 2414

Yes.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:16

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But what I'm saying is we don't have to fill those blanks. Recipient 10 should be blank, recipients' names should be blank, and account number should be blank.

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[] 19:07:28

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on the OID?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:30

Line 2423

Yes, and then the description, what would be the description? Is it credits from…?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:36

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What?

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[] 19:07:37

Line 2429

Well, you have to look… whatever your OID is that you got back from the IRS.

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[] 19:07:42

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This is how you're going to fill it out.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:42

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No, no, no, I'm talking about what we're doing with the 1040 now, because that 1040 needs a 1099 OID, correct?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:51

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This that Raina did, this is for $250.

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[] 19:07:51

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Yes, that's the… that…

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[] 19:07:55

Line 2444

Yes.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:07:57

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So, when you look at this that Raina submitted, she submitted this to her

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[] 19:07:57

Line 2450

Yes.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:02

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Trust account at Wells Fargo.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:05

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This process that we're going down with the 1040s, we're not submitting those to your trust account.

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[] 19:08:06

Line 2459

Okay.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:11

Line 2462

we're expecting a check.

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[] 19:08:13

Line 2465

No.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:15

Line 2468

Right? Okay, so what would be our description?

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[] 19:08:16

Line 2471

Yes.

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[] 19:08:17

Line 2474

Yes, but it's… it's still a check.

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[] 19:08:20

Line 2477

a check to your… to your trust.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:22

Line 2480

Correct.

Line 2482

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:24

Line 2483

But are you… are we putting our trust information on the 1099?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:29

Line 2486

Or no, yes or no?

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[] 19:08:30

Line 2489

Yes. Yes.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:32

Line 2492

Oh, okay, all right. And then what would the discussion be?

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[] 19:08:33

Line 2495

So, you're so… you're…

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[] 19:08:37

Line 2498

your social's paying the trust.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:39

Line 2501

Okay, okay.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:42

Line 2504

All right.

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[] 19:08:42

Line 2507

So your 1099OID is… you're… you're the creditor, and then…

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[] 19:08:48

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You're paying your trust, so when you get the check, it's going to be in the trust name.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:53

Line 2513

Okay.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:56

Line 2516

All right, and then…

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[] 19:08:57

Line 2519

the same… it's the same thing you… it's the…

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[] 19:08:59

Line 2522

It's the same 1099-OID, except…

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[] 19:09:03

Line 2525

you're putting it the full amount.

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[] 19:09:06

Line 2528

So, you're emulating whatever you did,

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:09

Line 2531

Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:09:10

Line 2534

You're just correcting one thing.

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[] 19:09:12

Line 2537

That's why the letter…

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:13

Line 2540

And what's the matter?

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[] 19:09:14

Line 2543

flows real easy. This is all you're doing.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:17

Line 2546

So, what's the one thing we're correcting? The box four, you're saying?

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[] 19:09:21

Line 2549

Yeah, box for it, that's it.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:23

Line 2552

Okay, but is the description the same as the one that Raina has in her description box?

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[] 19:09:29

Line 2555

Yes, everything is the same. Whatever… it has to match everything. Whatever you put on your…

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[] 19:09:36

Line 2558

First, 1099 OID.

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[] 19:09:38

Line 2561

that you have will match.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:39

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:39

Line 2567

Okay, all right.

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[] 19:09:40

Line 2570

What you got back?

Line 2572

[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:42

Line 2573

Okay, I want to make sure. All right, I'm done. That's all I wanted to know. Thank you.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:47

Line 2576

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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[] 19:09:48

Line 2579

Yes, you're welcome. Yeah, you bet. Anybody… anybody else?

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[Ally] 19:09:53

Line 2582

Well, why that 1040 and the 1040X together?

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[Ally] 19:09:57

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And not one or the other.

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[] 19:10:00

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Because the 1040 is where it originated, and the 1040X is the amended.

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[] 19:10:07

Line 2591

amended… amendment.

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[Ally] 19:10:09

Line 2594

But you want to submit them both at the same time?

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[] 19:10:14

Line 2597

Yep.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:18

Line 2600

And I have a question also, Chris. Um, you talk about earlier, um, about, um, the utilities and…

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[] 19:10:22

Line 2603

Sure.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:25

Line 2606

And from the bank statements that we have throughout the year.

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[] 19:10:29

Line 2609

Mm-hmm. Yes.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:30

Line 2612

And you say something about, uh, that we can multiply that times 10.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:35

Line 2615

Would that be…

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[] 19:10:35

Line 2618

Yeah, times 2… times…

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[] 19:10:38

Line 2621

Yes, good.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:40

Line 2624

Would that be just, like, the…

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[] 19:10:42

Line 2627

And…

Line 2629

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:43

Line 2630

Uh, like, utility, like, the stuff from, uh, a bank statement.

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[] 19:10:51

Line 2633

My… my suggestion…

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[] 19:10:55

Line 2636

is to keep it simple.

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[] 19:10:58

Line 2639

And whatever you paid out,

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[] 19:11:02

Line 2642

on your bank statements.

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[] 19:11:05

Line 2645

taxing their savings.

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[] 19:11:07

Line 2648

whatever you spent for that 12 months,

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[] 19:11:11

Line 2651

I would add it up.

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[] 19:11:15

Line 2654

And only…

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[] 19:11:16

Line 2657

do the same process that you're doing now.

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[] 19:11:21

Line 2660

But you'll be doing the…

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[] 19:11:24

Line 2663

and just starting from scratch to do the 1099-A, because you're acquiring all that.

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[] 19:11:29

Line 2666

See, whenever you're taking credits, nope, they're always abandoned.

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[] 19:11:35

Line 2669

It's like a big casino out here, where everybody can make claims of everything.

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[] 19:11:41

Line 2672

But you might have to wait 6 months, you might have to wait 12 months, all depending on, you know, what you're claiming.

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[] 19:11:48

Line 2675

and the public to the private.

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[] 19:11:50

Line 2678

And, um…

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[] 19:11:53

Line 2681

When you're doing this process, you're always going to use the 1099-A to acquire, because everything's abandonment, like I told you.

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[] 19:12:01

Line 2684

Remember, creditors…

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[] 19:12:05

Line 2687

Um, they own… they own up.

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[] 19:12:07

Line 2690

Uh, Debtur's run.

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[] 19:12:10

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They wait for the crumbs, they wait for the abandonment.

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[] 19:12:14

Line 2696

And then true creditors know how to operate, extinguish debt.

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[] 19:12:22

Line 2699

Hence the 1099-C, it's called extinguishment. You know, read.

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[] 19:12:27

Line 2702

Read the instructions as Patrick Devine has said so many times.

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[] 19:12:31

Line 2705

Read out instructions!

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[] 19:12:33

Line 2708

Um, no, really read it, you know, you might… you guys… you guys will learn something.

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[] 19:12:39

Line 2711

I know it's… sometimes, you know, it will put you to sleep from time to time, but as…

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[] 19:12:45

Line 2714

You continue to continue to…

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[] 19:12:47

Line 2717

stop at it, you'll become more…

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[] 19:12:50

Line 2720

I'm not… I do believe there's something that happens to people when…

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[] 19:12:54

Line 2723

fruit is put in front of me and get a little tired.

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[] 19:12:56

Line 2726

But… but then you extinguish it, and then you… and then you want to bring it back, because you have to bring it back. You have to balance it.

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[] 19:13:06

Line 2729

The interest is your interest, not like, you know, it's like your best interest, kind of, it's your… to your best interest.

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[] 19:13:11

Line 2732

You're the originator, you're the one that did all that, so you have to get it back.

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[] 19:13:15

Line 2735

Gotta come back, like, everything goes back.

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[] 19:13:18

Line 2738

to the originator. Um…

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[] 19:13:21

Line 2741

You know, when an animal or body dies, it goes back to the maker, where, you know, the originator.

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[] 19:13:29

Line 2744

Water, you know, everything.

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[] 19:13:32

Line 2747

Um, it's just that…

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[] 19:13:35

Line 2750

We… we are not… we were never taught this as… as Devine would say, your As, your B's, and your C's.

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[] 19:13:42

Line 2753

We thought they were telling us the alphabet when…

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[] 19:13:46

Line 2756

they're really giving us notices of, you know, you need to know your age of Bs, and your C's.

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[] 19:13:53

Line 2759

And, uh, we just don't know him.

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[] 19:13:57

Line 2762

Uh, so whenever you're doing something like that, for those of you who have your credentials,

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[] 19:14:02

Line 2765

You add them all up,

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[] 19:14:06

Line 2768

Even though they've monetized at times 10,

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[] 19:14:13

Line 2771

Um… you might want to go with 1099-B, but I like to keep it simple.

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[] 19:14:21

Line 2774

Sometimes we can… we have to get…

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[] 19:14:24

Line 2777

We have to use discernment. So, if you…

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[] 19:14:27

Line 2780

you know, had $200,000 in your checking account, or $100,000, or $50,000, or whatever that is for the year.

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[] 19:14:36

Line 2783

My suggestion is…

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[] 19:14:39

Line 2786

Just put that on there. You can answer for that.

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[] 19:14:43

Line 2789

Somebody knocks on your door, you can… you can answer that.

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[] 19:14:46

Line 2792

This is why…

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[] 19:14:48

Line 2795

It's all withheld.

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[] 19:14:51

Line 2798

easier than, well, okay, we get that, but why did you put it times 10?

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[] 19:14:55

Line 2801

Well, you know, modern mechanics states this and that, eh, you're going into a different realm.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:00

Line 2804

Okay.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:03

Line 2807

Chris, just recapping, then it's a 1099-A.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:06

Line 2810

say, and then the first day 19 IB, then the second 109 IB, just like we did before.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:12

Line 2813

And then with the 1040,

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:14

Line 2816

1040Fs.

Line 2818

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:16

Line 2819

And the OID?

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[] 19:15:20

Line 2822

No, you're not… you don't have to do the whole process. You're only doing the 1099-OID.

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[] 19:15:26

Line 2825

That's it.

Line 2827

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:28

Line 2828

Uh, for the transcript from…

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[] 19:15:29

Line 2831

Your 1040, your 10… your 10…

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[] 19:15:32

Line 2834

Yeah, you wanna… yeah, like, you know, and you can put your transcripts in there, too, you know, help, help them out, you know.

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[] 19:15:39

Line 2837

on your package, I have my transcripts in there.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:43

Line 2840

All right, so I have a question. So, with… say you bought a vehicle, you can use the 1040 for a recouping…

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:51

Line 2843

That money that you paid for the vehicle as well.

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[] 19:15:52

Line 2846

That's right. That's right. That's right.

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[] 19:15:56

Line 2849

See? Now we're starting to be private bankers here. Now we're starting to see things, you see?

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[] 19:16:01

Line 2852

You seeing how everything's… it's introverted.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:05

Line 2855

Right. And…

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[] 19:16:06

Line 2858

You have to change your thought process.

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[] 19:16:09

Line 2861

We have to start operating like creditors.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:09

Line 2864

Okay.

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[] 19:16:12

Line 2867

The other people are pretenders.

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[] 19:16:13

Line 2870

Why do you think they're so quiet, Raina and Kim, for your… all the utilities?

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[] 19:16:20

Line 2873

And for PNC,

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:20

Line 2876

Got them.

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[] 19:16:22

Line 2879

think about it. Why are they caught?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:23

Line 2882

Is it an omission of guilt.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:24

Line 2885

Oh, they know, we write.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:28

Line 2888

They know that we're correct.

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[] 19:16:29

Line 2891

Yes.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:30

Line 2894

So, for the vehicle, it's the same thing, the 1040, 1040X OID, and the three letters, but the letters will be crafted a little bit different.

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[] 19:16:31

Line 2897

That's right.

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[] 19:16:41

Line 2900

That's correct. And remember, folks,

Line 2902

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:41

Line 2903

And the transcript.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:43

Line 2906

And it's

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[] 19:16:44

Line 2909

Remember, folks, we are the national treasures. We are the Treasury.

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[] 19:16:51

Line 2912

Our accounts are our individual accounts, for those of us who have credentials.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:55

Line 2915

Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:16:56

Line 2918

And I'm not saying that it's impossible, like, I know Jonathan stepping in,

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[] 19:17:01

Line 2921

And I don't want to be, like, it's real bleak, you know, that, you know, I won't be able to do this, I won't be able to do that. It's not like that.

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[] 19:17:08

Line 2924

But I can only speak from first-hand personal knowledge, but…

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[] 19:17:13

Line 2927

Uh, we may have…

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[] 19:17:15

Line 2930

You know, you do… you know, you can do the private banking, uh, once you get a…

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[] 19:17:20

Line 2933

non-interest-bearing account, or, um…

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[] 19:17:23

Line 2936

Trust account, non-interest varying trust account.

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[] 19:17:27

Line 2939

Uh, then you can do the private banking. That's…

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[] 19:17:29

Line 2942

private… there's only one way to do private banking. I've showed everybody…

Line 2944

[] 19:17:34

Line 2945

what private banking is, and you can't get any more private than the banking that we've seen, folks, because you've all seen

Line 2947

[] 19:17:40

Line 2948

$10 million go,

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[] 19:17:41

Line 2951

Uh, on your transcripts, and you've also all seen

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[] 19:17:45

Line 2954

the 1099-OIDs that have come back to you from the bank.

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[] 19:17:50

Line 2957

But whatever your bank is,

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[] 19:17:53

Line 2960

And everybody's still sitting here today,

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[] 19:17:56

Line 2963

Uh, with no problems.

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[] 19:17:59

Line 2966

Because we've done it right. I'm right?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:01

Line 2969

Well, I still have a question about

Line 2971

[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:05

Line 2972

The, um…

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:07

Line 2975

1 million. I just want to make sure I'm correct in it. Only thing we have to do… you're saying we don't have to do an OID for the $1 million and the 10,000… the 10K for maintenance? We don't have to do an OID for those two?

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[] 19:18:22

Line 2978

No, you, you do. You will need to do it.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:25

Line 2981

Okay.

Line 2983

[] 19:18:25

Line 2984

You will need to do… if you didn't withhold…

Line 2986

[] 19:18:28

Line 2987

whatever… let me put it like this. Let me be a real broad stroke here.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:32

Line 2990

Okay.

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[] 19:18:33

Line 2993

like I have.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:35

Line 2996

Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:18:36

Line 2999

I look at my OIDs,

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[] 19:18:39

Line 3002

And I have… it's a ridiculous number, so I'm not even gonna bring it up, because it's… it's ridiculous.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:18:44

Line 3005

Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:18:47

Line 3008

I mean, I've been doing extinguishments of debt, and I haven't seen transcripts because they've been moving them to the private.

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[] 19:18:54

Line 3011

The only time I've been able to see them is when Jim…

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[] 19:18:57

Line 3014

The one I did for Jim, and I could see what was going on.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:19:03

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Okay.

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[] 19:19:04

Line 3020

And if I wouldn't have seen that, it wouldn't have jogged my memory, and I would have been, you know, we would have still been going around in circles, quite frankly.

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[] 19:19:11

Line 3023

Because, you see, things are so simple sometimes that we…

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[] 19:19:15

Line 3026

We want to make them more… oh my god, how simple could that be?

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[] 19:19:23

Line 3029

So you're not breathing.

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[] 19:19:26

Line 3032

And it's a little bit more complex, but…

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[] 19:19:28

Line 3035

You know, same thing with, you know, these…

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[] 19:19:31

Line 3038

type of… I guess it is really true in Proverbs, like a child like mine.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:19:35

Line 3041

Mm-hmm.

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[] 19:19:36

Line 3044

But…

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[] 19:19:40

Line 3047

Uh, anytime you didn't do a 1099-O-ID and withhold,

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[] 19:19:45

Line 3050

then you get back. Nothing.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:19:49

Line 3053

Right. Okay.

Line 3055

[] 19:19:50

Line 3056

And yes, I know where they get 24%, by the way, Ali. They get it because…

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[] 19:19:56

Line 3059

the system.

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[] 19:19:59

Line 3062

will only allow you 24%.

Line 3064

[] 19:20:02

Line 3065

Am I right, Jason?

Line 3067

[] 19:20:06

Line 3068

This is…

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[Chris Nero] 19:20:07

Line 3071

You are correct. If you do it online using 1099 or anything like that, it only allows you to do 24%.

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[] 19:20:09

Line 3074

Jason…

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[] 19:20:16

Line 3077

That's my Jason voice box, I just pushed a little button and it comes on.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:20:20

Line 3080

But if you handwrite it and you include it in the packet, does that make a difference?

Line 3082

[] 19:20:27

Line 3083

Yes.

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[Chris Nero] 19:20:28

Line 3086

Yeah, that's what you have to do. You have to handwrite it and mail it out.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:20:32

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Included with the Powell package.

Line 3091

[] 19:20:32

Line 3092

No, well, let me…

Line 3094

[] 19:20:36

Line 3095

Yes, you include it with whatever I put in front of you, the letters, the 1040, the 1040 amended, X amended.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:20:43

Line 3098

Okay.

Line 3100

[] 19:20:44

Line 3101

Um, the 1099-OID, copy of the 1090ID, that's it.

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[] 19:20:47

Line 3104

Nothing more. Nothing less.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:20:47

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Okay, alright.

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[] 19:20:50

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Now, keep in mind, folks,

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[] 19:20:53

Line 3113

This is the way to do it. Nope.

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[luke ] 19:20:53

Line 3116

Here's puppetone.

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[] 19:20:56

Line 3119

No 1096 either.

Line 3121

[] 19:20:59

Line 3122

So this is how you do your private banking. You can use it as many times.

Line 3124

[] 19:21:04

Line 3125

But it has to be the same process.

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[] 19:21:08

Line 3128

The 1040, and the 1040 amended.

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[] 19:21:11

Line 3131

And the 1099-OID.

Line 3133

[] 19:21:14

Line 3134

And that's how you'll be using your private banking.

Line 3136

[] 19:21:18

Line 3137

For those of you that already have it from your bank,

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[] 19:21:22

Line 3140

That's where I would pull… I would focus, you know, pulling money out of.

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[luke ] 19:21:29

Line 3143

First, so we would do this for 2025 tax year.

Line 3145

[] 19:21:31

Line 3146

Any questions?

Line 3148

[kimberlybyrd] 19:21:33

Line 3149

No. 24.

Line 3151

[] 19:21:35

Line 3152

Yes. You could… wait, no, you gotta do one year behind, so it'd be like, you know, 2020…

Line 3154

[kimberlybyrd] 19:21:36

Line 3155

44

Line 3157

[luke ] 19:21:42

Line 3158

And it doesn't matter if we filed an original 1040 at that point, just our regular way.

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[luke ] 19:21:47

Line 3161

This is totally different.

Line 3163

[] 19:21:51

Line 3164

Yeah, no, this is… this is… this is us. We're…

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[] 19:21:56

Line 3167

We're the creditors. We're the bankers.

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[] 19:21:58

Line 3170

We're the private bankers.

Line 3172

[] 19:22:02

Line 3173

Uh, individual bankers.

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[] 19:22:05

Line 3176

Everybody here has an individual bank or EIN, correct?

Line 3178

[kimberlybyrd] 19:22:09

Line 3179

Yes.

Line 3181

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:10

Line 3182

Yes.

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[luke ] 19:22:10

Line 3185

Yes.

Line 3187

[] 19:22:14

Line 3188

So, I mean, you know, we're playing the game out here.

Line 3190

[luke ] 19:22:18

Line 3191

Got it, okay

Line 3193

[] 19:22:20

Line 3194

I told you folks, anytime you go to the Treasury, a Treasury Retails, or want to buy bonds, they'll tell you,

Line 3196

[] 19:22:26

Line 3197

takes you up to 6 to 12 months, because you see, they're

Line 3199

[] 19:22:31

Line 3200

Claims.

Line 3202

[] 19:22:34

Line 3203

of abandonment of credits that are floating in the Ethernet.

Line 3205

[] 19:22:39

Line 3206

It's a big casino.

Line 3208

[] 19:22:41

Line 3209

And everybody's making claims. That's why Johnny Appleseed was planting applesaeds, because he was making his claim, and…

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[] 19:22:47

Line 3212

I planted that there, that's mine, this is mine, that's mine.

Line 3214

[] 19:22:54

Line 3215

You know, Michael Ingalls from Little House on the Prairie back in the day, he'd stake his ground and…

Line 3217

[] 19:22:59

Line 3218

He would, you know, they would fight for that. If you could keep it from the natives.

Line 3220

[] 19:23:03

Line 3221

You know? Adverse possession.

Line 3223

[] 19:23:07

Line 3224

Nobody owns anything in the public.

Line 3226

[] 19:23:11

Line 3227

But you can control it.

Line 3229

[] 19:23:16

Line 3230

What I want to do with everybody here is I want to get everybody solid so that they can be…

Line 3232

[] 19:23:22

Line 3233

you know, have some credits.

Line 3235

[] 19:23:25

Line 3236

And really just have peace of mind while we're doing the things that we're doing.

Line 3238

[] 19:23:31

Line 3239

Because this group…

Line 3241

[] 19:23:34

Line 3242

We have a lot of… a lot of business at hand to balance the scales out here.

Line 3244

[] 19:23:42

Line 3245

a lot of lawlessness.

Line 3247

[] 19:23:45

Line 3248

There's a lot of craw heads for freedom.

Line 3250

[] 19:23:51

Line 3251

Serious, serious mission.

Line 3253

[] 19:23:56

Line 3254

So if you're here…

Line 3256

[] 19:24:01

Line 3257

There's a reason.

Line 3259

[] 19:24:05

Line 3260

Every one of us here that's still here has to… we have to take care of everybody.

Line 3262

[] 19:24:12

Line 3263

Stay in touch with everybody.

Line 3265

[] 19:24:14

Line 3266

If you have questions, you know, that's why we have this WhatsApp here, because this is our own little private area.

Line 3268

[] 19:24:21

Line 3269

We don't care about having thousands, ten thousands, 100,000, a million, whatever people with…

Line 3271

[] 19:24:27

Line 3272

I don't really give a damn about all that. All I care about is what we're going, what we're doing, and…

Line 3274

[] 19:24:32

Line 3275

If you could only see the vision, what I see for this group…

Line 3277

[] 19:24:38

Line 3278

what the future holds?

Line 3280

[] 19:24:43

Line 3281

You'd be astonished.

Line 3283

[] 19:24:46

Line 3284

Each one of you is very, very special, I told you this.

Line 3286

[] 19:24:53

Line 3287

We're all collectively souls of one.

Line 3289

[] 19:25:00

Line 3290

We just gotta learn how to play the game out here.

Line 3292

[kimberlybyrd] 19:25:03

Line 3293

I agree.

Line 3295

[] 19:25:03

Line 3296

I've told you before,

Line 3298

[] 19:25:05

Line 3299

We've seen people out here, like I said, Patrick Devine created his own

Line 3301

[] 19:25:11

Line 3302

1099 voucher, you know, I always go back to that, because I thought that was…

Line 3304

[] 19:25:14

Line 3305

I'll never forget it, I was looking for… where's a 1090… IRS 1099 voucher? Well, I need one of those, and…

Line 3307

[] 19:25:20

Line 3308

And he created it, but you… okay, yes, we are sovereign. Yes, we are kings, but you can't come out to the casino…

Line 3310

[] 19:25:28

Line 3311

and enter into the port,

Line 3313

[] 19:25:33

Line 3314

And when, if you don't know how to play the game!

Line 3316

[] 19:25:39

Line 3317

You gotta be responsible for your… for your… your twin.

Line 3319

[kimberlybyrd] 19:25:45

Line 3320

Can I ask a question?

Line 3322

[] 19:25:46

Line 3323

The Cain to Abel,

Line 3325

[kimberlybyrd] 19:25:47

Line 3326

I'm sorry to cut you off.

Line 3328

[] 19:25:47

Line 3329

Go ahead.

Line 3331

[kimberlybyrd] 19:25:51

Line 3332

So, I'm looking at the two lists.

Line 3334

[] 19:25:52

Line 3335

No, it's okay, go ahead.

Line 3337

[kimberlybyrd] 19:25:53

Line 3338

The one that says Explanation of Changes, correction of Federal Income Tax Withholding, and I amended return supporting documents enclosed.

Line 3340

[kimberlybyrd] 19:26:03

Line 3341

And I'm looking at the addresses for each one. One goes to the Department of Treasury and Kansas City, Missouri, and the other one goes to Austin, Texas.

Line 3343

[] 19:26:12

Line 3344

And Austin.

Line 3346

[kimberlybyrd] 19:26:13

Line 3347

So, um, what do we send it to? I know that we send it to Austin, Texas, because this list at 1040X, corrected 1040.

Line 3349

[] 19:26:15

Line 3350

Yeah.

Line 3352

[] 19:26:21

Line 3353

I send it… I send it…

Line 3355

[] 19:26:23

Line 3356

Yeah, I send it to both, because…

Line 3358

[] 19:26:26

Line 3359

It's… it's an even stream…

Line 3361

[] 19:26:30

Line 3362

that one of these… remember, everything is…

Line 3364

[] 19:26:33

Line 3365

artificial intelligence in there.

Line 3367

[kimberlybyrd] 19:26:35

Line 3368

Right, so send both packages to them, a copy.

Line 3370

[] 19:26:37

Line 3371

So,

Line 3373

[] 19:26:42

Line 3374

I would send it to both, um… I do… I do like Austin, like, for me.

Line 3376

[kimberlybyrd] 19:26:48

Line 3377

Mm-hmm.

Line 3379

[] 19:26:49

Line 3380

Um, but I like to think that when the 1099s were done, uh, you have both addresses on there.

Line 3382

[kimberlybyrd] 19:26:56

Line 3383

Okay.

Line 3385

[] 19:26:57

Line 3386

For the flow.

Line 3388

[kimberlybyrd] 19:26:58

Line 3389

Okay.

Line 3391

[kimberlybyrd] 19:27:01

Line 3392

All right, thank you. Just, just had that question.

Line 3394

[] 19:27:03

Line 3395

Yes.

Line 3397

[] 19:27:06

Line 3398

Okay, so, um…

Line 3400

[] 19:27:08

Line 3401

Jonathan, you can be, um, reaching out, uh, for…

Line 3403

[] 19:27:14

Line 3404

Those that have the ability to send Jonathan the…

Line 3406

[] 19:27:18

Line 3407

The, uh, little apps that we have, or e-books, or whatever that we have.

Line 3409

[] 19:27:23

Line 3410

or, you know, Jason, you may be owed to, Raina, Kim, whomever.

Line 3412

[] 19:27:27

Line 3413

Uh, let's get Jonathan in. For those of you that…

Line 3415

[] 19:27:30

Line 3416

Um, I've spoken to, you could… if…

Line 3418

[] 19:27:33

Line 3419

It'd be great if we can get maybe, like, 2 more notaries.

Line 3421

[] 19:27:38

Line 3422

Um, because at some point, we'll be conveying a common law…

Line 3424

[] 19:27:43

Line 3425

jury?

Line 3427

[] 19:27:45

Line 3428

And, um, we'll be doing what we have to be doing.

Line 3430

[] 19:27:52

Line 3431

How many notaries do we have right now? Raina, Luke's wife?

Line 3433

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:27:57

Line 3434

We got 4.

Line 3436

[] 19:27:57

Line 3437

Who, um…

Line 3439

[] 19:27:59

Line 3440

part of those four.

Line 3442

[luke ] 19:28:00

Line 3443

I'm a… I'm a notary too, Chris.

Line 3445

[] 19:28:01

Line 3446

Yeah.

Line 3448

[] 19:28:05

Line 3449

Luke?

Line 3451

[luke ] 19:28:07

Line 3452

Yep, Luke's a notary, too.

Line 3454

[] 19:28:09

Line 3455

What is that?

Line 3457

[] 19:28:11

Line 3458

Man! Okay, we only need maybe…

Line 3460

[] 19:28:14

Line 3461

One more notary, Kim.

Line 3463

[kimberlybyrd] 19:28:17

Line 3464

Right? I spoke to Raina about it today. We're on top of it.

Line 3466

[] 19:28:23

Line 3467

Good, because we're going to start doing some…

Line 3469

[] 19:28:27

Line 3470

We need to start doing some things, you know.

Line 3472

[] 19:28:33

Line 3473

And, um…

Line 3475

[] 19:28:35

Line 3476

You know, we got some good… we have some good things happening with the mortgage, just for…

Line 3478

[] 19:28:40

Line 3479

Uh, Kimberly and PNC.

Line 3481

[] 19:28:43

Line 3482

Um, I did get something back on yours, too, Raina, that I have to…

Line 3484

[] 19:28:46

Line 3485

I'm getting to the courts in New Jersey.

Line 3487

[] 19:28:49

Line 3488

Uh, but, I mean, for the most part, just…

Line 3490

[] 19:28:52

Line 3491

Just to… if you don't mind, Kim, do you mind if I share some of the stuff that…

Line 3493

[kimberlybyrd] 19:28:56

Line 3494

Oh, no, not exactly. Um, share it. Please do.

Line 3496

[] 19:28:57

Line 3497

from the pension.

Line 3499

[] 19:29:01

Line 3500

So, we've been doing this, what, 9, 10 months?

Line 3502

[kimberlybyrd] 19:29:04

Line 3503

Yes.

Line 3505

[] 19:29:05

Line 3506

Right? Something like that?

Line 3508

[] 19:29:07

Line 3509

Something like that, right?

Line 3511

[kimberlybyrd] 19:29:09

Line 3512

Yeah, it's about 9-10 months, for sure.

Line 3514

[] 19:29:12

Line 3515

7 months, 8 months, something like that.

Line 3517

[kimberlybyrd] 19:29:15

Line 3518

Yes.

Line 3520

[] 19:29:16

Line 3521

So… so, Kim…

Line 3523

[] 19:29:19

Line 3524

Kim… Kim was tired of…

Line 3526

[] 19:29:22

Line 3527

of being held hostage.

Line 3529

[] 19:29:23

Line 3530

for her own credits, and so…

Line 3532

[] 19:29:26

Line 3533

And just like, you know, Raina and some other people and whatnot, and…

Line 3535

[] 19:29:30

Line 3536

that, you know…

Line 3538

[] 19:29:32

Line 3539

like for us, you know, work together, see if we can stop this, and…

Line 3541

[] 19:29:36

Line 3542

We've done a, you know, a slew of beautiful work.

Line 3544

[] 19:29:41

Line 3545

boxed them in with…

Line 3547

[] 19:29:43

Line 3548

you know, so much truth and law that…

Line 3550

[] 19:29:46

Line 3551

They've just fallen silent, right?

Line 3553

[kimberlybyrd] 19:29:48

Line 3554

Yes?

Line 3556

[] 19:29:49

Line 3557

Now we have them in…

Line 3559

[] 19:29:51

Line 3560

In the United States District Court, and…

Line 3562

[] 19:29:54

Line 3563

I just spoke with…

Line 3565

[] 19:29:55

Line 3566

you know, PNC's attorney.

Line 3568

[] 19:29:59

Line 3569

And, uh, I send them everything.

Line 3571

[] 19:30:02

Line 3572

And, you know, I think he's in a real quandary now.

Line 3574

[] 19:30:06

Line 3575

He hasn't called me, but…

Line 3577

[] 19:30:09

Line 3578

I'm gonna try them on Monday, but…

Line 3580

[] 19:30:11

Line 3581

Thing is, is that Kimberly has been…

Line 3583

[] 19:30:13

Line 3584

really, really diligent on playing really fair with these people, but they've…

Line 3586

[] 19:30:19

Line 3587

He had to sign it to me, and now we're in the court.

Line 3589

[] 19:30:23

Line 3590

And they're about to…

Line 3592

[] 19:30:28

Line 3593

We're about to lose.

Line 3595

[] 19:30:32

Line 3596

They've already lost on the outside. They've… they've…

Line 3598

[] 19:30:35

Line 3599

fall inside on everything, so…

Line 3601

[] 19:30:36

Line 3602

But, um, so there's an attorney involved now that I spoke with.

Line 3604

[] 19:30:42

Line 3605

And, uh, you know, we'll see what we can work out, because everything needs to be kept open now.

Line 3607

[] 19:30:48

Line 3608

Now we're in territories.

Line 3610

[] 19:30:50

Line 3611

I'm a territory, I'm foreign, they're a territory, and they're foreign.

Line 3613

[] 19:30:55

Line 3614

They know that.

Line 3616

[] 19:30:57

Line 3617

Um, or they'd be screaming, oh, he's practicing law!

Line 3619

[] 19:31:03

Line 3620

He needs an attorney, you know, they can't do that now.

Line 3622

[] 19:31:07

Line 3623

See, I've already figured out their game.

Line 3625

[] 19:31:11

Line 3626

And, um, it's…

Line 3628

[] 19:31:13

Line 3629

It'd be very unfortunate for us. Alright, so anybody have any… any… any questions, any statements to make before, uh, we wrap it up?

Line 3631

[Ally] 19:31:24

Line 3632

I do. Um…

Line 3634

[Ally] 19:31:26

Line 3635

And if you want to…

Line 3637

[] 19:31:27

Line 3638

Mm-hmm.

Line 3640

[Ally] 19:31:29

Line 3641

just speak with me in private about my…

Line 3643

[] 19:31:33

Line 3644

Mm-hmm.

Line 3646

[Ally] 19:31:35

Line 3647

situation, just tell me. Um…

Line 3649

[Ally] 19:31:39

Line 3650

I had submitted…

Line 3652

[Ally] 19:31:43

Line 3653

a bunch of 1099As.

Line 3655

[Ally] 19:31:47

Line 3656

Recently.

Line 3658

[Ally] 19:31:49

Line 3659

And…

Line 3661

[Ally] 19:31:53

Line 3662

this…

Line 3664

[Ally] 19:31:55

Line 3665

stupid Telegram group. I'm just kidding, I shouldn't call it stupid.

Line 3667

[Ally] 19:32:00

Line 3668

This guy comes on there and says, oh, I went to…

Line 3670

[] 19:32:02

Line 3671

Uh-huh.

Line 3673

[Ally] 19:32:04

Line 3674

Can you hear me?

Line 3676

[] 19:32:06

Line 3677

Yes, I can.

Line 3679

[Ally] 19:32:08

Line 3680

Okay, so this…

Line 3682

[] 19:32:09

Line 3683

Yes.

Line 3685

[Ally] 19:32:11

Line 3686

Telegram group that's talking about these 1099As.

Line 3688

[Ally] 19:32:15

Line 3689

And a bunch of people submitted them.

Line 3691

[Ally] 19:32:17

Line 3692

Including myself, this guy comes on there and says,

Line 3694

[Ally] 19:32:22

Line 3695

I went to jail for 2 years for doing this.

Line 3697

[] 19:32:27

Line 3698

Uh-huh.

Line 3700

[Ally] 19:32:29

Line 3701

And same thing, like you were saying,

Line 3703

[Ally] 19:32:31

Line 3704

in the court…

Line 3706

[Ally] 19:32:33

Line 3707

It sounds like he… this…

Line 3709

[Ally] 19:32:37

Line 3710

I'm just trying to…

Line 3712

[Ally] 19:32:39

Line 3713

us, I guess, assume what he's…

Line 3715

[Ally] 19:32:41

Line 3716

what he's saying, um, from the little bit of information that he left, but…

Line 3718

[Ally] 19:32:47

Line 3719

in the court, maybe he…

Line 3721

[] 19:32:47

Line 3722

Mm-hmm.

Line 3724

[Ally] 19:32:49

Line 3725

they told him the same thing like you're saying, is

Line 3727

[Ally] 19:32:53

Line 3728

That's not really your place.

Line 3730

[Ally] 19:32:57

Line 3731

to go back and claim

Line 3733

[Ally] 19:33:01

Line 3734

after the contract was made, the value that was created and have it reapplied to pay off

Line 3736

[Ally] 19:33:11

Line 3737

the debt.

Line 3739

[Ally] 19:33:13

Line 3740

Like, that is something that should have been in a consideration before turning in the… or before signing the contract, and not after the fact.

Line 3742

[] 19:33:15

Line 3743

Okay?

Line 3745

[Ally] 19:33:22

Line 3746

And he's saying, unless we were to produce a receipt…

Line 3748

[Ally] 19:33:26

Line 3749

showing that…

Line 3751

[] 19:33:27

Line 3752

Mm-hmm.

Line 3754

[Ally] 19:33:29

Line 3755

Um, we were initial… our intention… it's all about intentions, he was saying, is that

Line 3757

[Ally] 19:33:35

Line 3758

Our initial intention was to sell a security agreement

Line 3760

[Ally] 19:33:40

Line 3761

Which is typically not the case.

Line 3763

[Ally] 19:33:42

Line 3764

we just didn't know any better back then. Now we know.

Line 3766

[Ally] 19:33:45

Line 3767

Um, do you feel like that he's maybe just trying to…

Line 3769

[] 19:33:46

Line 3770

Mm-hmm.

Line 3772

[Ally] 19:33:52

Line 3773

be anti and scare people, or do you think that that's possibly true? Because I got scared, and then I actually voided my 1099As.

Line 3775

[Ally] 19:34:00

Line 3776

Because I got scared. I don't want to spend two years away from my family.

Line 3778

[] 19:34:03

Line 3779

Um… excuse me.

Line 3781

[] 19:34:05

Line 3782

Well, um, I believe…

Line 3784

[] 19:34:09

Line 3785

That…

Line 3787

[] 19:34:10

Line 3788

Every single one of us.

Line 3790

[] 19:34:13

Line 3791

have a spiritual discernment.

Line 3793

[] 19:34:17

Line 3794

that we should listen to.

Line 3796

[] 19:34:19

Line 3797

And every one of us…

Line 3799

[] 19:34:21

Line 3800

is different.

Line 3802

[] 19:34:23

Line 3803

And can see something different, or feel something different.

Line 3805

[] 19:34:28

Line 3806

This is why, when there's a car accident,

Line 3808

[] 19:34:31

Line 3809

And they have several witnesses.

Line 3811

[] 19:34:37

Line 3812

they'll get, you know, there's 4 different witnesses, they'll get 4 different officers to interview them.

Line 3814

[] 19:34:44

Line 3815

And then they'll get all the witnesses' statements together, and…

Line 3817

[] 19:34:49

Line 3818

It's very common.

Line 3820

[] 19:34:53

Line 3821

that each one of them saw something different.

Line 3823

[] 19:34:57

Line 3824

Kim used to be a police officer. Would you agree with that?

Line 3826

[] 19:35:08

Line 3827

Did we lose Kim?

Line 3829

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:35:09

Line 3830

Okay? You there?

Line 3832

[] 19:35:10

Line 3833

Kim, you need… you can…

Line 3835

[kimberlybyrd] 19:35:13

Line 3836

I'm here!

Line 3838

[kimberlybyrd] 19:35:15

Line 3839

What was said? I didn't hear you, Dr. Mark.

Line 3841

[] 19:35:16

Line 3842

So, what I was saying…

Line 3844

[] 19:35:19

Line 3845

No, what I said was, you know, you can put

Line 3847

[] 19:35:23

Line 3848

people that had seen a car accident.

Line 3850

[kimberlybyrd] 19:35:26

Line 3851

Mm-hmm.

Line 3853

[] 19:35:27

Line 3854

And there'll be 4 different witnesses, they'll get 4 different officers to interview them, and they'll each…

Line 3856

[] 19:35:33

Line 3857

Each one of them will bring it together, and you could very well have four different…

Line 3859

[] 19:35:38

Line 3860

Um, you know,

Line 3862

[] 19:35:42

Line 3863

people will see different things that they witnessed.

Line 3865

[kimberlybyrd] 19:35:45

Line 3866

Correct.

Line 3868

[] 19:35:46

Line 3869

And even then, they have to… people think it's real simple, they have to get all the information and then

Line 3871

[] 19:35:51

Line 3872

Even though everybody's not…

Line 3874

[] 19:35:54

Line 3875

the same, but similar, they have to…

Line 3877

[] 19:35:57

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deciphered through it. I was saying Kim's, you know, you've been an officer, you know about that stuff.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:36:00

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Yes, I know. That's the truth. You do have to decipher of all the different witness statements you have.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:36:05

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So… but I've heard the same thing.

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And so…

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:36:09

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about that as well. She's talking about the OIDs, people have gone to prison for it, but I don't think they did it the same way you're speaking about. It's totally different.

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I know… I know firsthand.

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Because I know people.

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But I'll tell you what happens.

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This is why our group is what it is.

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This is why we have NDAs.

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Because all it takes is one person.

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signed an affidavit against another person.

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And if that other person doesn't know how to handle that affidavit in the court.

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then they're screwed.

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Those people…

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were shaking.

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They didn't know how to defend themselves.

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This is why we've had this group for almost

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you know, 2 years.

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This is why I told you when we signed up, we signed up together.

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for life. So, you know, it's a journey.

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For those who want to leave, may leave whenever they choose to, but I'm just saying,

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There's no quick way to educate

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All of you.

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And just such a short time.

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Because then you're just gonna get cheated out of every penny.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:37:34

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Right.

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It's your time.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:37:39

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Well, here's what I heard. The difference, I believe, the individuals that I heard, and these people were in Detroit, they did… the guy was arrested for his OIDs. He put in his own personal banking account.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:37:51

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He didn't put it into a trust account.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:37:55

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You know, and that's why they came after him.

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many, many reasons and many, many components that we don't know, but maybe he doesn't have a cap number, maybe he doesn't have a TCC code.

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Maybe he doesn't have an estate.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:38:08

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Mm-hmm.

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for a foreign trust, or an individual banker. Maybe he's…

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[] 19:38:14

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you know, a lot of maybes, right?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:38:17

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Right.

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[] 19:38:19

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You know, what's important is what do we know?

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:38:21

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Yes.

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Where are we at? Because I've… I've extinguished debt in the billions.

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And I'm still here.

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And as I told… I told you folks, I've…

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I met… I met the boys in black when I was in the big house.

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And they shut down the whole prison.

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So I was… I didn't give a damn. I was doing it right there in the hornet's nest.

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you know, what the hell, you wanna… you know, I've already been in the hole, what are you gonna do, kill me? Kill me now?

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My attitude.

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Because honestly, I don't give a damn.

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Not in a world that's insane.

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You can call me crazy, but…

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People are scared. Well, why are you standing up? You want to go to jail? Why are you standing up to judges?

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[] 19:39:19

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Do you even hear yourself?

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[] 19:39:23

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Question is, why are you?

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[] 19:39:26

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bloodied tyranny tyranny affect your community?

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And even the community is a word that they created, is to commune.

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[] 19:39:34

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Communism.

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so many things we gotta be so cognizant of.

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Thing is, is that we have to…

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[] 19:39:48

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Make sure…

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That we educate ourselves.

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And we need to make sure…

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that we have all the tools. That's credits, then that's what we need.

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Because we need those tools.

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to do all the great things that we need to do.

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And I believe that you have

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those tools now.

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[] 19:40:21

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So, Allie, um…

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Everybody…

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[] 19:40:29

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that does things right.

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will always win.

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And for those who do things wrong,

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And you didn't know who you were.

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quite frankly, I don't know what to believe out there, so I believe nothing.

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Except for what I create, and what I see, and what I feel.

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Because there's not anything out there.

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that's ever told us the truth.

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Not anything that we've seen?

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Not anything that we've heard.

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And we've been lied to all our lives, even by our own parents, telling us there was a Santa Claus, and there was an Easter Bunny, and this and that, and the third.

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So, I don't believe anything.

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Except for what I know I've done.

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That's why everybody's here, because I've never sold anybody anything else except what?

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I've done!

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You guys are all kings and queens, I've told you this before.

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You don't need to bow to me.

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I'm not here to do anything except lead by example.

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And, you know, you know what I feel. I believe in every one of you.

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is I'll have…

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So, Ali, listen.

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[] 19:41:51

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If you… if you follow squirrels…

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[] 19:41:55

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In the forest?

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[] 19:41:57

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Not only will you get lost, but you won't catch any.

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[] 19:42:04

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But I respect every one of you individually.

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Because everything that you do is part of your journey.

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But I will never bullshit you. I will always tell you directly.

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[] 19:42:18

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In a nice way. Maybe sometimes not so nice.

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But I will tell you the truth.

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But we'll, you know, sugarcoat it either.

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you need to focus, Allie. Focus on…

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what you're doing.

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Get it done.

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[] 19:42:42

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And, uh, everybody watch over everybody.

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[] 19:42:47

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And for those of you that always call me and talk to me and tell me, you know, how you're doing and all that, checking up on me…

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[] 19:42:53

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I appreciate it.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:42:58

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We appreciate you as well, Chris.

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[] 19:42:58

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I do.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:43:00

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Thank you.

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[] 19:43:02

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Um, you're welcome, and, you know…

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[] 19:43:04

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So all of you folks out there, um…

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[] 19:43:08

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Thank you. If there's anything that you need, for whatever reason, and you want me to look it over, just

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[] 19:43:14

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you know, send me a text,

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[] 19:43:17

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Send me the email, I'll look it over.

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[] 19:43:20

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I'll give you the green light, um…

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[] 19:43:23

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It's up to you. If you feel confident…

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[] 19:43:29

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And you're confident!

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[] 19:43:31

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then do it!

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[] 19:43:38

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The thing, you know, I don't mind doing it. I'm just saying, though, but there's a time in your life when you're just like, you know what, I'm just…

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[] 19:43:46

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I'm confident.

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[] 19:43:49

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That's a beautiful, beautiful feeling.

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[] 19:43:51

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like, being at a job when you first start, you don't know what the hell you doing, and…

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[] 19:43:55

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That's tough enough, but once you know what to do…

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[] 19:43:59

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Great.

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[] 19:44:03

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Anybody have anything to say before I leave?

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[luke ] 19:44:08

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Thank you for sharing this process, Chris. It's gonna mean a lot to my family, and really thank you.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:44:17

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Saying over here, Chris, thank you.

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[] 19:44:18

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Thank you.

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[kimberlybyrd] 19:44:19

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Ditt

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[] 19:44:20

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Thank you all.

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[] 19:44:22

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Alright, well listen, guys, um…

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[] 19:44:27

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You guys are all very, very…

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[] 19:44:29

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Yeah, I hope you folks all know how special that you are, because…

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[] 19:44:33

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I don't believe he'd be here if you weren't.

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[] 19:44:37

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I'm a very, very, uh…

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[] 19:44:40

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The quoted eccentric guy, and…

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[] 19:44:43

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I'm even surprised that, you know, I have conversations with my creator.

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[] 19:44:48

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You know, I'm still at work.

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[] 19:44:50

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work in progress myself.

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[] 19:44:53

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I kind of feel like Moses, like, why would you choose me?

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[] 19:44:57

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Why would he choose every one of you?

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[] 19:45:02

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But there's also…

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[] 19:45:05

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I think in Psalms or Proverbs where it says, who are we to question?

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[] 19:45:08

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The Potter were just a piece of clay, right?

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[] 19:45:13

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But, I'll say, I don't…

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[] 19:45:15

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fat as much as…

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[] 19:45:18

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He's walking in every one of us.

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[] 19:45:22

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And there's no separation.

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[] 19:45:26

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That's the biggest deceiver.

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[] 19:45:29

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that we've ever been taught that all of us are separated.

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[] 19:45:38

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I'm always here for you guys. You guys have a good one.

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[Jonathan Colwell] 19:45:41

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Gratitude, Chris, thank you!

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[luke ] 19:45:43

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Thanks, Chris.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:45:43

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Thank you, Chris.