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[Chris Nero] 18:10:07

These are real quick.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:15

And then right now, I gotta get with you later, I'm gonna…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:18

teach you how to do the Zoom.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:24

I got another one that's gonna be…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:29

little TikTok that I'm gonna put on that has to do with one of the judges. I'm gonna start doing one judge at a time.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:35

So that people can…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:37

educate themselves on what to be looking at, because their Oaths of offices…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:42

are not always what you think oaths of office.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:47

Uh, they may not have the right jurisdiction, there might be an anomaly with the notary, there could be any type of thing.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:54

basically, in this case, none of the judges here in Arizona

[Chris Nero] 18:10:59

Except for maybe one.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:01

which was a pro tem judge.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:03

who had the back of the oath.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:08

And then I had a slew of judges that decided to get their oaths of office renewed on December of 2025.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:16

Which are the same judges I was requesting on their…

[Chris Nero] 18:11:20

boats of office, and the pattern is December 2025.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:25

So, you know…

[Chris Nero] 18:11:27

Not to mention, they don't have the flip side, which is the Arizona Revised Statutes. All these have flip sides, because they tell you where their bonds are at.

[reina] 18:11:38

You've been having fun, I see.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:40

Oh yeah, but the Treasury…

[Chris Nero] 18:11:42

You can liquidate their bond at the Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:46

What I found out.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:49

Treasury has a whole thing that has to do with bonds.

[reina] 18:11:49

Interesting.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:58

So, I mean, that's where I'm at with these judges. I'm gonna start coming out.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:04

There's also… you folks know that all these judges and city council members

[Chris Nero] 18:12:09

They have oaths of, uh, I mean, they have, uh, financials that they're supposed to put out there to the public.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:17

So you can go to each judge…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:20

pull their financials,

[Chris Nero] 18:12:21

Uh, in this case, we have a lot of co-mingling of…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:25

community-state where

[Chris Nero] 18:12:26

One judge or another judge is married to an attorney, another judge is married to somebody with a non-profit.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:32

Uh, you know, one of them's not putting their… you can't own a home and say,

[Chris Nero] 18:12:37

that you don't own a home, especially when you're living in the home and you're married, because it's a community state.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:43

So, as you continue to pull them apart, you're going to see that

[Chris Nero] 18:12:49

They're not transparent, and that's how we gotta get them.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:55

And then I send paperwork out to risk management, the judicial commission,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:02

The Secretary of State, the Governor's Office,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:06

This is a big event.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:10

You folks understand that when you're… when you have these public servants,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:14

that are supposed to be servicing us,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:17

in the public, from the private,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:22

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:24

we find out that what's really going on…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:28

is that there's an EIN number,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:30

at that court, or wherever it may be.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:35

There's a Dun & Bradstreet number.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:40

And you can pay…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:42

using the 1099 on that case.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:49

The difference is that you can't… you have to be very, very cunning in how you bring that in as evidence.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:56

Because you can't make it an exhibit in the public.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:01

That's why they have the facts and law, and the law in fact.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:06

That's an actual…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:08

you know, saying in the legalese world.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:12

Because remember, everything is presumed

[Chris Nero] 18:14:17

No matter… I could be holding my arm.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:20

and tell somebody, look, he cut my arm off.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:22

And you're holding it. And the court…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:28

will still take the other side, because it's all presumed.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:31

Because it's fiction.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:34

And those who will win will be the ones that have the form.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:38

everything that we put together,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:40

the letters, the dead validations, everything, because you see,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:45

Creditors ask questions, because we're asking, as they say, as a king.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:51

would ask, or a queen.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:56

And that's what we need to start be doing, is…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:59

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:02

start, you know, questioning and…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:05

And we're going to get into some scenario. So, Raina, you have your… the first one that we saw last week.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:11

But, you know, that's… let's go over it again, and, you know, I'm gonna let you…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:15

Um, I want you to share the experience, Raina.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:19

As opposed to me stepping in and, you know…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:23

I want you to start from the beginning, you know, and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:25

Because, look, guys,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:28

If you… and I know Kim's already started, but everybody's gonna be different, and I'll tell you this right now.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:34

Imagine, if you pay gas or electricity or water,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:40

Or whatever it may be, and you use this process, it's gonna work on your…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:43

And anything.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:46

It's just that there's different laws, like, uh, TELA doesn't apply with some of the cars, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:51

And whatnot, but, you know, we're gonna… we'll get to that point. I mean, that's why…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:55

I separated, you know, in some cases, there's, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:59

vehicle letters, and in some cases, there's…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:02

Uh, mortgage, uh, debt validations, letter of consideration, etc.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:08

So, I believe…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:12

folks, if I could go back in time,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:15

And focus on what works.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:19

Everybody loves to go out there and, you know, shoot Bigfoots, or catch Bigfoots, or whatever, you know, I'm just using that

[Chris Nero] 18:16:26

As an example, or…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:28

you know, squirrels or whatever that people want to do out there.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:33

But…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:35

If I could go back, I would have been focusing on the things that I, you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:40

that was working for me.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:43

And… not trying to get too high, too high elevated too fast.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:49

Because there's certain instances where you may…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:54

have done your own damage.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:57

See, the system's very cunning, it'll…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:59

Once it finds out that there's people that have templates,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:03

They'll take your template,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:06

what they call a template.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:08

And then they'll take adverse possession of it.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:12

And then whenever they see your, you know, somebody using that type of template,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:17

Boom. Goes in spam.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:22

That's why you had a lot of people getting, you know, all this success with the 1099AIDs and all this other stuff.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:28

Problem is, is that…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:31

Whether people want to believe it or don't want to believe it in this industry where…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:36

Uh, people say, well…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:38

You get lucky, the system will give you some money, and then, you know…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:43

It doesn't have anything to do with that. What it has to do with is that…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:49

You have to have a system

[Chris Nero] 18:17:53

that I believe, where you have to have your credentials.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:57

Um, and you have to have your EINs and everything that goes with

[Chris Nero] 18:18:02

having, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:05

any type of, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:09

prosperity out of it.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:11

because of you… if you're just…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:14

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:16

there's something to it. It's hard to put my… my…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:21

a word to it, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:24

There's some times when I think we have to be in a certain state of mind when we're doing things.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:30

synchronicity…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:32

I don't think you can be double-minded. I don't think you can say, I believe this, and then, you know, then…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:39

And then on the flip side, say, well, you know, maybe we'll… maybe it'll work.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:44

If whenever I do something, it's gonna work.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:50

I mean, I don't know what to say.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:53

That makes me a megal maniac, then so be it.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:58

you know, I always claim, you know, you always should be claiming, you know, you're loved.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:04

They love me.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:07

Before you go into any meeting.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:13

Yeah, it's good to be strong, it's good to be sturdy, but it's also good to be…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:19

um, knowledgeable and know how to…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:23

uh, turned the tables, if you may, from where they're asking questions?

[Chris Nero] 18:19:28

to what you're asking questions.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:30

So, anyhow, I want to let… okay, so Raina, you went in, and you did the first one. This is the one you showed us before, but go ahead and…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:38

Give us an event, and then Kimberly, um, are you there?

[reina] 18:19:45

Yes, Kim is there. Kim?

[reina] 18:19:52

Uh, so I can start while we wait for Kim, but she's there. She's probably mute.

[reina] 18:19:58

You mute, just in case.

[reina] 18:19:59

Um,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:19:59

I'm here. I was trying to get the mute off.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:03

You're on the… you're on deck, Kimberly, next.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:20:06

Okay, no worries.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:08

You're in the bullpen.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:20:10

Yes, I am.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:13

Okay, so, Raina…

[reina] 18:20:14

So, what happened was, uh, everybody knowing we shared it last time we had the meeting, um, what happened with my water bill. With my water bill, I've been getting credit.

[reina] 18:20:26

Uh, on the water, um…

[reina] 18:20:28

I'll pull it up every… very quick, so a little reminder.

[reina] 18:20:35

Okay, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:36

This is the very first one you did.

[reina] 18:20:37

Right. Can everybody see that?

[reina] 18:20:42

Yes?

[Chris Nero] 18:20:43

No, there it is.

[reina] 18:20:45

Okay, so…

[reina] 18:20:48

the whole, uh, auxiliary thing that we're doing is working perfectly fine, awesome, great.

[reina] 18:20:54

when my water bill.

[reina] 18:20:55

And getting the credit every month for my water bill.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:57

We're gonna… Raina, excuse me, so let's…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:01

let's just stay focused on the water bill, and then we're gonna jump into the next one.

[reina] 18:21:04

Yes. So, um, my water bill, like everybody see, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:06

Please.

[reina] 18:21:10

I have a balance, obviously, Chris…

[reina] 18:21:12

told us in a previous meeting that some violence have to stay open.

[reina] 18:21:17

cannot go to zero.

[reina] 18:21:19

Um, but I…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:21:20

20 rugby. 20 regular pair.

[reina] 18:21:23

But I'm also getting credit.

[reina] 18:21:26

Uh, $400 every month.

[reina] 18:21:28

all my water bill.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:29

Yes. Is that the first bill?

[reina] 18:21:30

So, for everybody's seat.

[reina] 18:21:32

This is the bill for this month, for the month of January that I was supposed to pay.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:37

But what about February? Or the one before? Didn't you have two of these?

[reina] 18:21:40

I haven't… I haven't received the new one yet. This is the one that I was due on…

[reina] 18:21:46

January 27th, a couple days ago.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:48

Right, but did you have another one before?

[reina] 18:21:52

Uh, yes. Uh, let me find that one. Hold on one sec.

[reina] 18:22:00

So, but what I'm trying to get to is that

[reina] 18:22:05

It works for my water bill perfectly fine, uh, being enjoying and having fun with my water bill.

[reina] 18:22:12

Um, and obviously, looking forward to, um,

[reina] 18:22:18

To continue having those credits on my water bill every month.

[reina] 18:22:24

Um, let's just…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:24

See, we gotta build, guys. You have to build your foundation.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:29

Uh, as the creditor out here.

[reina] 18:22:31

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:32

Because, you see, all the laws that are called consumer laws,

[Chris Nero] 18:22:38

Does everybody knows what a con is, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:22:42

It's not a pro.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:45

So, negative.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:47

So, if you're a consumer,

[Chris Nero] 18:22:50

And don't they ever call us good Samaritans?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:22:55

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:55

Which is the Word of God.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:22:57

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:58

a Sumerian?

[Chris Nero] 18:23:01

So, are we the original Sumerians?

[Chris Nero] 18:23:05

Because that's what it seems like.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:08

But you also have some consumers.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:11

Khan Sumerians that are not real.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:14

And they're out there playing.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:23:14

Mm-hmm.

[reina] 18:23:16

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:16

And they're taking your money. Go ahead, Raina.

[reina] 18:23:18

Okay, so this is the one for the previous month.

[reina] 18:23:21

This one was due December 31st, and everybody can also see that I got another $400 credit in there.

[reina] 18:23:31

On my bail.

[reina] 18:23:34

So, for me, this is awesome. This is working.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:35

Okay.

[reina] 18:23:39

weigh my water bill.

[reina] 18:23:41

Um, I will jump in into my electric and my gas bill.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:45

Okay, so before you do that, we want to… I want to say that…

[reina] 18:23:46

First, I'm gonna…

[Chris Nero] 18:23:51

When I spoke with… hold up.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:55

When I spoke with, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:23:58

Reyna, and she's telling me that she had some issues.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:03

My concern was…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:05

There should be no issues other than…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:09

A lot of times, these companies

[Chris Nero] 18:24:12

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:13

What they do is they…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:17

So I couldn't…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:20

What they do is they give you an address,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:24

And it's… and now, and I'm glad that we went through this, Raina, because

[Chris Nero] 18:24:31

we can talk about…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:33

the experience, and then what you learned, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:36

I just wanted to put out there,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:39

Every single one of you is different.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:44

Every single one of you have a different mentality.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:52

But if you follow the instructions here…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:54

You will win.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:57

Because everything is prepaid. That's just the way it is.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:00

So, Raina, go ahead and talk about your experience with…

[Chris Nero] 18:25:04

The electric, is that what it is?

[reina] 18:25:06

Yes, let's do the electric first. So, with the electric, um…

[reina] 18:25:12

It is… the story's a little bit different.

[reina] 18:25:14

Um, with electric, um…

[reina] 18:25:17

I'm pulling the bill up so everybody can see it.

[reina] 18:25:23

Um, we have to do… we've been doing some

[reina] 18:25:28

fighting with them.

[reina] 18:25:30

Um, can everybody see that?

[Chris Nero] 18:25:36

Not yet, okay, there you go.

[reina] 18:25:37

All right, so…

[reina] 18:25:40

Weima Electric, uh, hold on.

[reina] 18:25:43

Okay, so if everybody can see here,

[reina] 18:25:46

Um, the top right, right here, my highlight in that?

[reina] 18:25:52

Right here?

[reina] 18:25:55

Can everybody see that?

[Chris Nero] 18:25:59

Zero.

[reina] 18:25:59

Right. It says balance remaining from your last bill. Zero.

[reina] 18:26:05

And says, this month charges and credit $167.

[reina] 18:26:10

Total amount due by January 27th.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:26:13

Mm-hmm.

[reina] 18:26:14

It says 862 with an 8 cents.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:26:16

Yeah. Uh-huh.

[reina] 18:26:19

Like, right there already, it's not making any sense.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:26:21

Yeah,

[Chris Nero] 18:26:22

Right.

[reina] 18:26:23

Exactly.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:26:24

Thank you.

[reina] 18:26:25

So, if we dive down… oh, and on top of that, there's a short of notice.

[reina] 18:26:31

Which shouldn't happen.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:32

Yes, which is a big no-no.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:33

Big no-no.

[reina] 18:26:33

Right. Right.

[reina] 18:26:36

Well, friend Thomas wanders in one…

[reina] 18:26:38

Um, sorry for the background noises, my little one.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:40

Who can…

[reina] 18:26:43

Um, so if we're moving down…

[reina] 18:26:48

We're going to move down to here.

[reina] 18:26:52

this page. He says…

[reina] 18:26:55

Violence from last bill.

[reina] 18:26:59

810.8.

[reina] 18:27:00

Payment receipt.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:03

That's right. There you go.

[reina] 18:27:04

8108?

[reina] 18:27:06

Balance remaining from your last bill? Zero.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:10

Now, now, Raina, you came to… you called me immediately, right? Because you were confused.

[reina] 18:27:12

The…

[reina] 18:27:17

I was confused because I… yes, because they… when they sent me this one, it was a shot of noticing it.

[reina] 18:27:25

And I was all confused about the whole entire bill.

[reina] 18:27:27

To be honest.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:29

Right.

[reina] 18:27:30

So, when we look it up, um…

[reina] 18:27:34

Chris looked the whole veil up and said, hey, this doesn't make any sense, you know.

[reina] 18:27:38

We try to go back and forth with PCNG, with the electric company, and even though here, guys, if you see these mon charges and credits,

[reina] 18:27:47

See how they use the word credits in here.

[reina] 18:27:51

It says 167, and then they're saying again, total amount due,

[reina] 18:27:58

862.8, but what's the rest of the money coming from?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:00

No, look at the… but look…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:02

at that color.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:06

Okay, so you already had a balance…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:09

of zero.

[reina] 18:28:11

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:12

But they gotta tell you,

[Chris Nero] 18:28:14

that you have a credit.

[reina] 18:28:16

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:18

that credit…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:20

is what I… what I believe they paid themselves.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:24

like, $40 or $42.08, I think is what they pay themselves.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:32

Because they have to balance it.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:40

So that's what I see.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:46

Any… any, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:47

Bakers, anybody want to comment on that?

[reina] 18:28:50

No, I agree with you, but also, like,

[reina] 18:28:54

If you guys see to the right side what it says, your equal payment plan,

[reina] 18:28:58

He says, this month, 152.

[reina] 18:29:02

And then says, find Solomon's bill, $760, meaning they build in ahead.

[reina] 18:29:09

That's what I'm taking from there.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:10

You guys.

[reina] 18:29:11

They build in 5 months ahead.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:11

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:16

That is correct.

[reina] 18:29:17

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:19

So, what we did was we created a letter,

[Chris Nero] 18:29:25

letting this company know that you could not put

[Chris Nero] 18:29:29

A shutoff notice.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:31

When she already has the challenge in.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:35

And then you want to tell them what you discovered.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:39

When they found out.

[reina] 18:29:43

And not just that, also, when…

[reina] 18:29:46

Me and Chris being back and forth with this company. We also find out that we have to be…

[reina] 18:29:54

Mailing all the correspondence

[reina] 18:29:57

to the legal department, not to the address where they send you the bill to make the payments to.

[reina] 18:30:04

It has to be the legal department.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:06

Now, for the record, if I may,

[Chris Nero] 18:30:10

Now, they're supposed to…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:13

get it to that department.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:16

But when you spoke to her, they played stupid, right?

[reina] 18:30:20

Yes, absolutely.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:23

Well, no wonder we didn't get to see this. What'd she say?

[reina] 18:30:28

Because the department… the address on the bill is a… it's an automated department.

[reina] 18:30:36

Something very stupid, because I was just like…

[reina] 18:30:39

Okay, and when we send the bills in the mail, who takes it?

[reina] 18:30:45

You know, somebody have to be there. And I have…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:46

You see, and…

[reina] 18:30:49

I received somebody's sign.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:51

That's right.

[reina] 18:30:52

that they accept my letters, that they have my letter. It wasn't a robot.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:56

Maddie?

[reina] 18:30:57

Someone there.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:57

And immediately, they said they were going to stop

[reina] 18:31:01

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:02

any type of, you know, these…

[reina] 18:31:05

shorting notes.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:05

I told him, you can't be threatening these people.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:08

on paper,

[reina] 18:31:08

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:14

So, then you got that one handled, and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:17

There's one I was still waiting on, right?

[reina] 18:31:17

Yes. Yes, it's like, it's like you say, Chris, you know, everything they do and say is so confuse us.

[reina] 18:31:25

Because if we didn't know very, very… Chris wouldn't not know any better. We probably would have bait, you know, would have…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:27

They're liars.

[reina] 18:31:33

taking whatever they say. But, you know…

[reina] 18:31:36

He knew, and we knew, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:39

Well,

[reina] 18:31:39

kind of, like, went back and forth.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:41

The reason that I say that is because of my experience.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:46

It kind of remind me when I was in…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:49

third or fourth grade, when…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:51

You know, there was always one or two guys that were a little bit bigger, and, you know, wore the Husky pants, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:56

This is what my mother used to call them.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:59

Huskies. And uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:03

And there was always these bullies.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:06

And, you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:08

I'm just a little guy, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:10

I mean, I always stood up to them, and then, you know, I could see that…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:14

They didn't push… once you make a little stand,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:18

Although I did feel, like, intimidated, like, they're gonna wait to maybe jump me at some point, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:22

For the most part, when you confront the bully,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:26

They don't have anything.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:29

They're just a bully.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:32

You see, you can call us a bully,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:36

But we're the bully because it's our stuff.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:41

I mean, what more can I say?

[Chris Nero] 18:32:46

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:49

there's… I'm going over some old stuff that I was doing that has to do with the mortgages.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:55

And using the 1099-B,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:59

to get the mortgage back.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:01

That I have?

[Chris Nero] 18:33:03

Well, I don't know, I'm working on this right now with somebody very influential.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:08

Uh, and, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:11

It's going to be some really good stuff.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:15

Okay, so go ahead.

[reina] 18:33:17

Okay, so, um, this is my older bill, this is the gas one.

[reina] 18:33:21

And the gas one is a little crazy, too. Um…

[reina] 18:33:27

they… they did had a shot of notice, which on this one, they don't have it now, but they did have it on the previous one.

[reina] 18:33:35

And, um, another thing that happened with this one was that

[reina] 18:33:42

The company sent someone to my house,

[reina] 18:33:45

to actually shut off the… my gas.

[reina] 18:33:48

And on the middle, everything, they call…

[reina] 18:33:52

asking to, uh, for us to, like, make a half of the payments,

[reina] 18:33:56

of whatever we own at the time.

[reina] 18:33:59

And otherwise, they was going to shut it off, so obviously I got Chris involved with this one, too.

[reina] 18:34:06

And we've been handling very well, but…

[reina] 18:34:09

The only issue with this one is we're not hearing back from them.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:13

And that's good.

[reina] 18:34:15

Um, right.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:15

Anytime you don't hear back from someone, you know, that's not a bad thing. It just means that…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:21

we're gonna get them on the phone. We were gonna get them on the phone right…

[reina] 18:34:26

Yes, uh, we will try to get it on the phone, um, couple times.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:29

Yeah, so tomorrow.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:32

I think we'll turn them.

[reina] 18:34:32

they were supposed to call us back, they never did.

[reina] 18:34:35

So, still waiting.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:36

Yeah, and the thing about it is that

[Chris Nero] 18:34:39

Each one of these is a different…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:42

imagine, like, a different fighter, a different face.

[reina] 18:34:45

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:47

a different attitude, a different…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:49

character, because you don't know who's running who or what.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:55

But for the most part,

[reina] 18:34:55

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:57

when we get on the phone with the people and we tell them what the law is,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:02

They stand down immediately.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:05

Now, I look at these things…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:09

from a…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:12

a micro…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:14

rather than a macro, but I like…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:18

the little things.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:21

that we build our life around.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:25

And that is our utilities,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:29

our credit cards,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:33

Our mortgage, our car, our vehicles.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:39

If you never got anything,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:42

And all you did was take care of all those.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:46

Imagine how much time

[Chris Nero] 18:35:49

how much money?

[Chris Nero] 18:35:53

you would end up coming up with, at the end of the month.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:58

And they would give you more time…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:02

to work on your credit report.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:07

That's why I filed $11 million and paid back $6 million.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:13

Or 5-something, whatever, almost 6 million.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:17

Um, so that I could get…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:21

We have to… we have to, you know, we have to do everything we can to…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:26

I don't want to say manipulate the system, but in order for us to

[Chris Nero] 18:36:30

to be fruitful.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:33

We have to…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:35

it's kind of… I don't know if you guys might all be too young

[Chris Nero] 18:36:39

Um, except for you, Kim.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:42

Where the old guys are. But, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:45

There's a scene from the, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:48

From the body snatchers. It's an old one with Kiefer Sutherland's dad, Donald Sutherland.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:57

And it's a great movie, if you haven't seen it, you should see it, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:01

all these people will start going to sleep, and they… when they go to sleep, they end up… like, there's a pod next to them.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:08

And when they wake up, they have no emotions, they're not the same… they look the same, but they're not the same people.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:17

And at the very end,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:20

he's walking, and he thinks it's his girlfriend, but she's already won.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:25

One of them, and at the very end,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:29

they all point their finger at him.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:32

Because they see that he's sweating, he has emotion.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:38

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:41

you have to be ahead of the game when you're dealing with these people.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:45

Because…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:48

And I want to let Kim jump in, because I want to tell you…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:51

There are some…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:54

the first tier.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:57

that know what's going on, they'll question you and ask you certain questions.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:01

They want you to do the talking. That's why whenever Kimberly Arena gets on, he's my fiduciary, because Kim ain't doing the talking.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:10

And not once has anybody ever said, no, you can't speak, Mr. Nero.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:15

Because…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:17

She puts them on notice,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:19

Well, anybody that I remember with is, I'm the fiduciary.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:23

Okay? So…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:27

Basically, that's a trustee.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:29

Obey lead.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:32

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:34

success… successy assignee.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:37

All the same crap.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:39

But they changed the names of titles so that you get confused.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:45

And as a fiduciary,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:48

Kim, they're not speaking to you, right?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:38:52

Great.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:53

And so, when… when we were talking to that one woman, boy, she really wanted to talk to you. She was real nice, and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:01

Of course, then you introduce her to me, and then her tone changed. Go ahead.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:03

Yes, it hurts her whole disposition changed, um, once…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:07

started talking about the OMB.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:09

that was not present on the invoice.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:12

And the validation.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:14

of the dead. She… initially, she…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:18

I don't say accused, but she stated that

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:20

I had put in a complaint.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:22

So, once we got… cleared that up,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:26

Then she went into, oh, tell me what this is, you know, um…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:32

I would say accommodating, but she got real quiet. Initially, she was very loud, and…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:37

kind of… the kind of energy of taking over the conversation of, you made a complaint.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:42

But once we got… Chris started talking about the OMB that was missing,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:46

And validating the debt, and that it needed to go to the legal unit.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:39:51

Um, she became more compliant and more silent.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:57

And that's true in many rights, because, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:02

I didn't make those rules.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:05

But every bill has to have an OMB number on it.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:08

So, just keep that in mind, guys. Whenever you…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:11

think you're getting a bill for something?

[Chris Nero] 18:40:15

And you asked where the OMB number is, just on that alone, you can win.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:40:22

Wow. Even though your taxes, like, property taxes?

[luke ] 18:40:23

Versus…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:26

Doesn't matter. Any bill under A, I think it's a UCC9201, hold on, Luke.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:33

UCC 9201 is Statement of Account. Look it up.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:36

And know what it is to have

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:40:36

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:39

a statement of account.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:41

But what you won't see on there, folks, is you will not see a bill.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:40:47

Oh.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:48

So, if you have a bill…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:50

And they're billing you, where's the OMB? Now, the whole point of having a bill…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:56

with an OMB number is so that the IRS

[Chris Nero] 18:41:01

can keep record and balance the books.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:04

But because a lot of these…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:06

Entities are entities that claim, as a non-profit,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:10

But in fact, profiteering as a false prophet

[Chris Nero] 18:41:16

are not having to report

[Chris Nero] 18:41:18

the taxes. It only becomes mandate when we…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:22

tell them to report the 1099.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:26

And if they don't do it, then we do it.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:28

Because we have a right to get back every single dollar per dollar

[Chris Nero] 18:41:33

back of credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:37

That's the law. There's an IRS law to that, a 721, something like that. I'll figure it out, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:44

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:48

Every dollar that you put inside your bank,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:53

I mean, don't believe me, look at the, uh, the modern mechanics of money, modern mechanics tells you.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:00

Everything! You're gonna get back?

[Chris Nero] 18:42:04

at least what you put in there, never mind the 10 times. We know they did it.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:08

Who cares what they did? Just get…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:11

You think about how much money did you put and you used for your, uh, your 12 months last year, all that…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:17

All that comes back to you. All of it.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:20

credits. It's a barter.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:27

All of it.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:30

I'm working on mine right now.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:34

And then when I… when I get everything situated,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:38

And if you guys want to do your bank statements, then I suggest you do, because you already have your…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:42

You already have your bank EINs.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:47

You can do 3 months, 2 months, 1 month, 12 months, every month.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:53

Because you're bartering, you're bartering dollars.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:58

And they're taking your $100 and multiplying it times 10. I mean, that's a fact!

[Chris Nero] 18:43:05

You don't even… it's not hidden!

[Chris Nero] 18:43:07

Just Google what I said, you'll see.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:12

That's just the way the banks operate.

[luke ] 18:43:16

Chris, is it true if we don't claim those, then the banks take it?

[Chris Nero] 18:43:20

That's right, abandonment.

[luke ] 18:43:22

So we literally feed into their corruption.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:25

Yes, who the hell do you think? You're over there…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:28

You don't know what you're participating in.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:31

And run, uh, you could be in drugs, uh, trafficking,

[Chris Nero] 18:43:36

That's why you have to report that money, because you have a fiduciary obligation

[Chris Nero] 18:43:41

to your brother or your sister,

[Chris Nero] 18:43:44

And you have a… you have to do it because it's righteous, because it has to return to the

[Chris Nero] 18:43:50

originator, the artificer, who

[Chris Nero] 18:43:54

signed or wrote… that's your obligation. You're not doing your job, so they're gonna do it for you.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:01

And a lot of people are like, get 10 times the amount…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:04

I don't know… I know that in some cases, like, if you just get…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:08

if you use the barter, sometimes it'll automatically put it times 10.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:13

But I don't multiply it.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:20

But everything you have,

[Chris Nero] 18:44:24

Because we're the creditor.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:27

to that bank!

[Chris Nero] 18:44:29

We're loaning the money!

[Chris Nero] 18:44:32

to the bank, right?

[Ally] 18:44:35

Hold on, hang on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:37

So, if you… if you go in…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:40

to the bank, and you deposit

[Chris Nero] 18:44:44

$100.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:45

They're going to multiply that each dollar times 10.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:51

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:53

They're gonna go and do whatever the hell they want with those.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:56

Get little kids…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:59

whatever they do.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:01

with the money,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:05

That we created.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:09

And instead of us getting all… every month, our, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:45:16

Our bank statements,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:18

And filing, each month,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:21

or every 3 months.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:24

credits back as a barter,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:30

then you are telling the IRS

[Chris Nero] 18:45:34

Hey!

[Chris Nero] 18:45:35

I… I… because how does the IRS know? How does the IRS know that you have money

[Chris Nero] 18:45:40

Did you put in the bank that's sitting there? It doesn't. It's just that simple, okay?

[Chris Nero] 18:45:44

It's that simple. So, when you do is you're going to file that,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:49

You're gonna let them know, hey,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:52

This is what I deposit into my bank.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:56

And I'm gonna write the 1099 off. I want all my credits to come back to me.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:03

Because every month,

[Chris Nero] 18:46:05

It shows on your bank statement.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:07

How much credits are on there? You like that? Does it show negative?

[Chris Nero] 18:46:12

It doesn't show negative, then it's positive. That means all those are credits that you use need to come back to you.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:18

You need to report them,

[Chris Nero] 18:46:21

Once you report them,

[Chris Nero] 18:46:23

then that bank…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:26

is on the hook.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:28

for whatever they did with the rest of that money, and that ain't our business.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:34

And don't tell me that the government will not go after

[Chris Nero] 18:46:38

It's not even the government. The Crown will go after these banks, they'll go after Diamond, they'll go after…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:45

Markovich will go after anybody out there.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:50

Because you have to focus on the mirror.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:54

Both mayors, public and private, have to…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:59

mirror each other, and have…

[Chris Nero] 18:47:01

somebody's not playing the game when it's reported, then that mirror is broken.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:05

That means the commercial river

[Chris Nero] 18:47:08

is ruptured, and that will not happen, ever.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:18

That's why each one of you, when you turn in your Treasury package, you're doing away with all the national deficit.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:25

in your world,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:29

for your… for your family,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:33

For your, uh, ancestors,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:35

You have broken the chain.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:41

And then it's not going to get easier.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:46

I mean, I'm not… I can only tell you that…

[Chris Nero] 18:47:49

everything that I have gone through has been hell.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:53

But I guess it's just the way I look at things. I don't want to… I would like to change that hell.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:00

into a pleasantry.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:03

Because even though I have been challenged,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:07

I have risen stronger.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:10

I'm not saying that to be a fortune cookie, I'm saying it because…

[Chris Nero] 18:48:14

Every. Single.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:16

Even today,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:18

I'm challenged. I gotta go through something with my son.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:22

I gotta go through something, you know, with that one jerk cop over there.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:27

Um, I have to get into my Zen to where… what do I want to do, you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:32

I met with the guy over there, the prosecutor, and, you know, I told him everything. Of course.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:37

One of the things that I've learned is that everybody doesn't know anything.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:41

We speculate that a lot of these people know it. What they do know is bonds. So when I talk to

[Chris Nero] 18:48:47

the prosecutor and I tell them what I'm about to do, and what this and that, and he's like,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:52

Take a look, Mr. Nero.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:53

Give me 30 more days, and let's see what we can do. Maybe we can make this go away. I said, you need to look at this, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:00

that officer's under investigation. I put the Brady Act on him.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:04

I'm gonna get a history on him.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:06

I said, this is what he said about Phoenix cops. I said, there's no cameras, I have cameras.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:11

So you tell me what you want to do.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:13

And, uh, I want my license plate, um, that he took, that he stole.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:19

I'm not done with it.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:23

Let me be clear.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:25

I will never go after anyone with vengeance.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:29

But if you fuck with me…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:33

then there's no choice left.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:36

But to come in.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:38

with the seventh fire.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:43

And… and that's not going to be good.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:47

And right now, there's a lot of corruption.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:50

We all know that.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:53

This group is what's… that all we have left.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:58

For those who are here and those who continue to be here,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:02

I'm here for you guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:07

I mean, I could go off into the wild blue yonder, I've said this before, I mean, I'm…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:11

I got so many things that I'm doing that everybody's like, just, you know, stay in real estate,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:18

You know, just continue doing what you're doing. I just…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:22

you know, picked up this other one, now I'm gonna sell it for $389, I picked it up for $220.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:27

put in 40, uh, picked up another one for $130 worth $287, gonna DSCR, streamline that.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:36

the Spanish Trail Motel,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:39

Uh, I have so many things going.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:42

at one time, not to mention…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:50

fighting the system.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:52

Because, you know what, guys? If you don't fight the damn system,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:55

then you're going to live on your damn knees.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:01

And that information for me.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:04

I don't know everything either, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:08

I got some good swings in, hit some singles.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:12

Even so… even a home run, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:14

The thing about it is…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:17

Consistency.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:19

And I… I want to… I want to create some non-profits for all of us.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:24

Uh, at some point, but we'll get to that point when we get everybody that's gonna have their package out.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:30

Um, but I also want to go in, uh, to, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:35

Kimberly, I went a little bit too far. So, you want to explain what the woman told you on yours? Because it's different than, you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:43

we got from Reyna.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:51:53

Well, you're talking about the young lady that we spoke to on Friday?

[Chris Nero] 18:51:57

Yeah, I don't know if she was young, but yeah.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:00

Well, yeah, she didn't sound like she was, but…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:02

Anyway, she said, she stated…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:06

that… wait a minute, one second.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:07

She stated that, um…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:09

She thought that I had made a dispute.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:12

And I hadn't. And she began to tell me,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:15

all these things that were not relevant to the letters.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:19

That I had sent, and Chris kept asking her to…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:20

Where's the error?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:22

Hmm?

[Chris Nero] 18:52:23

She's like, where's the error? What errors are you talking about? I said, ma'am,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:26

Yes. Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:28

We've been talking about errors. We're talking about…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:31

That validation here.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:32

Right. And once she understood that it wasn't about the errors, um, because she was talking about the meter and all… we haven't read your meter since May,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:42

Um, but once she understood that, then she got quiet and she began to listen, because she really wasn't listening, she just came out the gate,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:49

stating those things that, you know, you filed the complaint.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:51

Well, she was a supervisor.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:53

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:55

But she's in a… let me tell you all of you something, excuse me, Kim.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:00

These supervisors know only so much.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:02

They're on a need-to-know basis.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:05

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:05

And there's been many of you that have been on the phone with me, and then all of a sudden,

[Chris Nero] 18:53:09

there's that… those pause, that silence, because you see,

[Chris Nero] 18:53:14

Once you hit that,

[Chris Nero] 18:53:16

nail on the head. It triggers off…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:18

some sort of an Amber Alert inside there.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:21

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:22

And something on the screen shows up, and they're like, okay,

[Chris Nero] 18:53:26

elevate this up. And that's exactly what this woman said she had to do, is go to the, what, the legal department, right?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:32

Yes, she became very quiet.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:35

Um, not as aggressive as she came out initially.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:39

So, um, and she was still pleasant, I have to say that, but she… I don't… I asked her, does she understand? And he said, no, they don't tell them enough.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:48

They know enough that when you get to that point, because you have to have plausible deniability on that.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:54

Mm-hmm, exactly.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:56

But one thing… one thing's for sure…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:59

Um, once she comprehended what we…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:03

wanted, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:04

And I'll tell everybody right here, and Kim,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:08

you know, you tell me if I'm wrong in any way, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:12

I didn't speak to her any different than what I'm speaking right now, and I told her…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:17

in plain English,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:19

that there was a, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:23

private account.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:25

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:26

And I told her that they needed to get this to the legal department,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:31

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:32

Anthony to follow the laws.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:34

that were on that draft.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:34

Yes.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:36

Yes, yeah, you did. You had to remind her, because you asked her, did she have it? So she was like, let me have… I do have it, let me read it. So she began to read it.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:45

out what we requested to us.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:47

And I… and we told her straight out, and she's like, um, what do you mean, what type of a private account? I said, listen,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:53

This is a private conversation.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:55

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:56

Didn't need to go to your legal department. It's for the best.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:54:59

Yes. And she got really quiet.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:02

Yeah, and she said, yes, we'll get… we're gonna… we'll immediately…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:07

We'll do that.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:10

What I'm trying to get at, folks,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:14

is that it wasn't like we were, like, trying…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:18

to walk on eggshells with her, right?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:55:21

No. Definitely not.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:22

And Raina, did that seem like we were walking on eggshells with these other people?

[reina] 18:55:27

No, definitely not.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:29

And I'm trying to get the flavors that when we call in there,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:33

We are in control.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:36

You see, our letter, our draft,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:40

is the court that's going on.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:43

When they're reading that,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:46

And they have it on recording?

[Chris Nero] 18:55:49

Boom!

[Chris Nero] 18:55:52

they're hit.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:54

And unlike Reyna, Kimberly had

[Chris Nero] 18:55:57

an email.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:55:58

Yes. She sent me an email.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:01

playing the… that's right, playing the…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:04

I'm so sorry.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:07

What does this mean?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:09

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:09

What is this?

[Chris Nero] 18:56:14

Is this an error?

[Chris Nero] 18:56:15

Do you want us to do something?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:17

Mm-hmm, I'm sorry. Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:19

And… and we're like, yeah, get it to your legal department, and make sure

[Chris Nero] 18:56:23

There's no interruptions. We told them straight up, make sure there's no interruptions.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:27

Yes, we do, for sure.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:30

For sure.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:31

So, we have to be able to speak to these people,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:34

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:35

And the reason that I put Raina on the phone with me and Kimberly on the phone is so that

[Chris Nero] 18:56:42

And many people that have been on the phone with me, including Luke in coming up here,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:47

that have been on the phone, including, um…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:48

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:52

you borrow…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:56:54

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:56

that I don't change… I am who I am. I mean, anybody here could tell you.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:01

Ibar, I can tell you, I've heard Nero talk some shit.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:04

that, honestly, nobody's gonna believe, and that's fine.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:08

And the same thing with, you know, rain is, or Kim, or anybody that's ever been on the phone with me knows that I don't pull any punches.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:08

Pretty much

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:16

Right. That's true.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:19

And I don't let anybody… I will not let anybody…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:19

That's fair

[Chris Nero] 18:57:23

Muscle me.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:25

Because we are the kings and queens.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:29

I agree. Definitely agree.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:31

Well, you know what else, too? I think…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:33

The difference is, Rainy, you didn't get…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:36

an email based on the letter you sent. Did you send it just by mail, or did you send it to them by email?

[reina] 18:57:42

No, I send it, I send it, I fax it, email, and… and mail, certified mail.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:43

Both.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:49

Yes.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:49

Right, so that's the difference. I… I… there's no difference. I faxed my… I didn't fax mine.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:54

I sent an email, and I sent it by certified mail.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:57:58

And they contacted me,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:01

Um, by email to speak with me.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:05

Yes, see, but they all have different techniques.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:08

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:08

You see, if they would have…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:12

In your case, Kim,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:14

They wanted you to screw up and answer… start answering questions for them.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:19

I need another dollar or two.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:20

Right?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:21

How much will 2008 threesomes? Yes, I agree.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:22

And then with, uh, Raina…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:24

gruesome. Would you get two pack?

[Chris Nero] 18:58:27

Yours was more like…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:30

Um…

[reina] 18:58:33

We try to play it stupid.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:33

They wanted to… they wanted to discombobulate you.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:34

Thank you.

[reina] 18:58:36

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:38

put the fear tactic,

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:40

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:41

then call you…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:43

to make a deal,

[reina] 18:58:46

Yep.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:58:46

Breakfast?

[Chris Nero] 18:58:47

Really, it's putting a gun against you. Those who have power and unconscionable violating your due process of rights.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:53

You see? And that's now…

[reina] 18:58:53

Absolutely.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:56

That gas company has a conundrum, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:58:59

Because that letter told them that they screwed up.

[reina] 18:59:03

Bait time.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:05

So now…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:08

these people are caught

[Chris Nero] 18:59:12

And when you're caught,

[Chris Nero] 18:59:16

I don't know, we've all had little kids in our life, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:20

Does everybody remember, like, when you had a little kid and…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:23

you know the… you know the kid did something, like, maybe he went into the kitchen, and you can see, like, some fingerprints in the cake?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:32

Or something, okay, similar?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:34

your kid is around, like, 5, 5 and a half.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:38

You go looking for him.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:40

And you're like, man, why… why is… why is Junior over the…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:45

What's June over there in the corner?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:46

What's going on?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:48

And he's hiding.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:51

Because he's got the chocolate on his fingers!

[Chris Nero] 18:59:56

That's what these people are.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:59

They're kids!

[Chris Nero] 19:00:01

And they got the chocolate!

[Chris Nero] 19:00:03

from your cake!

[Chris Nero] 19:00:07

And they have the goal to continue playing

[Chris Nero] 19:00:11

Teacup and cake with us, when we know there's no cake and there's no teacup, unless we supply it.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:17

That's what's going on.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:22

Those are our kids that we created.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:25

To feed us, clothe us…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:27

take care of the energy.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:31

And if we could go into a little bit more extensive, like, deep, like, you know, because I did.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:36

beneficiary, like, when you read everything in their codes,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:40

Where are the beneficiaries?

[Chris Nero] 19:00:41

It's for the community.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:43

It's a communist community.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:46

to commune.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:49

with the beneficiary, which makes us…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:52

the trustees. As the trustees,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:55

We're gonna hire a middleman,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:57

called Electric Company.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:00

gas company.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:03

And they're gonna be in the middle,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:06

Making sure that the pass-through goes through.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:09

And we're gonna send them what we call bills,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:13

But their only statement of accounts.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:16

But since they didn't educate themselves and know that you have to have an Office of Management and Budget for it to be a true bill,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:23

They're gonna do it anyways, because we have the power over them, and they don't have the knowledge, and that is what's going on.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:29

That's all that's going on.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:34

And, you know, I'm not here to save the world, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:37

This group here?

[Chris Nero] 19:01:41

It's gonna be something to reckon with.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:46

And, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:47

I'm taking care of myself so I can be here for another 60 years.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:53

Because I got big, big…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:57

Big? Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:58

get some big changes that I believe

[Chris Nero] 19:02:02

I don't know about all of you guys, okay, because I know some of us here, you know, we just want to have a nice little life, we want to raise our kids, and we just want to…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:11

You know, and that's fine. I don't have anything against that, but me?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:18

I really…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:20

I really, you know, believe in changing the world, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:26

How in the… how in the hell?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:29

Can we have the corruption?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:32

that we have today that is so deep,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:35

that it's layer after layer after layer, and when you believe that you have something there, they get bought off or killed!

[Chris Nero] 19:02:48

You gotta kill me.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:51

I mean, but… I'm heading in that direction.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:55

I am putting up with this shit.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:58

I'm gonna create a massive…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:01

uprise.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:03

getting ready to do my next video.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:06

Judge Kuhn, K-U-H-N.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:09

Gonna put all her financials out, I'm gonna put all her oats of office, or lack thereof,

[Chris Nero] 19:03:14

all the Secretary of State,

[Chris Nero] 19:03:17

The Superior Court, the Pima County Recorder's Office saying they can't find anything!

[Chris Nero] 19:03:24

I'm gonna read everything that's wrong.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:27

And believe me,

[Chris Nero] 19:03:29

When I tell you that I microanalyzed that,

[Chris Nero] 19:03:31

and micro-analyzed it.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:34

they're hit.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:42

Anyhow, anybody have any questions on, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:46

utilities of…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:48

how Reyna did it, you know, where she got the paperwork, any of that stuff.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:52

No silly questions here.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:04

Who's trying it out right now? Kimberly and Raina?

[Chris Nero] 19:04:11

Does that sound right?

[reina] 19:04:12

I believe, right, Luke?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:16

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:18

Kimberly? Okay. So…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:19

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:20

If you folks…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:22

For whatever reason.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:27

I get some people have fear, believe me.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:32

I really pushed it. I mean, when you got pipes coming out, I should put that on the thing again, just…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:38

And when I have, uh, you know, tractors coming out to take my gas pipes out, I mean, it's ridiculous.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:45

That's how far they will go to shut you up.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:52

And I was like, you know what?

[Chris Nero] 19:04:54

I'll just go order a porta-party.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:57

I'm gonna get a well in my land.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:02

But you have so much politics, and then when you have a family,

[Chris Nero] 19:05:06

They don't really capitulate to that type of…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:09

you know, mentality that I have.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:12

So…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:05:13

Nope.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:14

So, you know, somebody had to go, I don't…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:20

And they left.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:25

A lot of pain and suffering.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:31

But I know that…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:33

I'm fighting for my soul.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:37

As you all are.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:42

This is just…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:45

We're like electricity passing through.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:50

a child over here, who we are today, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:52

Getting ready to die while we hear.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:57

What will you be thinking?

[Chris Nero] 19:06:01

before you leave this world.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:03

that you did something.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:07

And honestly, all of you that are still here,

[Chris Nero] 19:06:10

And I mean this, I'm very, very proud of you, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:13

You see, it takes a warrior mentality.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:18

to want to break through.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:21

As the song says to the other side.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:27

It's tough.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:29

I don't recommend this.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:31

path for many people.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:34

Matter of fact,

[Chris Nero] 19:06:36

I'm amazed that I still have the people here.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:40

Honestly.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:42

And that's why I give you guys kudos right now.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:48

All of you…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:53

You're here to be your own…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:55

your own king, your own queen…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:57

I'm not… I'm not… I'm not that guy. I'm not the king, I'm not the… I'm not…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:01

I'm not trying to be anything for anyone.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:05

I just want…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:07

to pass good things for all of you.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:10

And share the things that I've been through the best way I can without…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:15

you know, being…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:18

fruitless about my actions and what I'm doing for you both.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:22

Because it's important that each one of you

[Chris Nero] 19:07:25

Open your eyes.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:27

willingly.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:29

for yourselves.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:32

So that…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:35

you know, you guys can…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:37

do your own thing.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:40

Yeah, it's scratching.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:42

Hold on, guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:51

Yeah, Jason's little cat.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:59

So I just… I think it's exciting. I believe it's exciting.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:04

And I'm very, very proud of

[Chris Nero] 19:08:07

I really am, and I say proud, I mean that, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:12

Every single one of us here are about… are doing something, literally doing something.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:18

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:20

You know, I know Ally's jumping in, you know, to help out, and I appreciate that, Allie and Luke.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:29

You know, Jason Ibarra, all of you guys have been there.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:40

each one of you that I've had conversations with you.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:44

Uh, I value those conversations.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:49

I mean, we're done with January, guys. We're going into February, so…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:53

We need to get, um, our packages out.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:58

And, um, if you guys want…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:02

to do the utilities.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:05

you don't have to be…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:08

in the negative.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:09

You can send out a letter.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:13

requesting the debt validation.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:16

And still pay your utilities for that month.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:20

And then, so that you don't break the contract after you send the first letter out, the second letter…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:26

now you can give them the letter that says that

[Chris Nero] 19:09:29

you know, until the dead validation.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:32

Um, you're gonna give them the law.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:35

that freezes them from collecting.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:38

And… look…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:43

This isn't about, oh, I want to get by, you know, get… get… I don't want to have to pay this or pay that. It is, but it isn't, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:50

Think of it like this.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:53

If I'm coming… if I come to your door,

[Chris Nero] 19:09:56

Every month,

[Chris Nero] 19:10:00

And I'm asking…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:02

for money?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:04

And I… and… and for whatever reason,

[Chris Nero] 19:10:09

You had been, you know, maybe ill, and you were kind of like your mind wasn't right, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:13

So, for, like, 6 months, you've been paying me?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:16

And then after that, you know, your mind's getting cleared up, and you're like, man, why is this guy coming to my door?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:23

And then…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:25

And then you're like, well, hey, uh, can you tell me what you're charging me for?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:31

And I… and I'm… I'm like, whoa!

[Chris Nero] 19:10:34

Whoa!

[Chris Nero] 19:10:36

What are you talking about? You've been paying me…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:39

been paying me for 6 months!

[Chris Nero] 19:10:42

What's wrong with you?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:44

Pay me the money!

[Chris Nero] 19:10:49

And then I come to your door again.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:51

And this time I have, like, a grenade.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:56

And you look at me, and I'm like, I got a grenade?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:59

Give me some money.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:02

Where this grenade's gonna go in through your house. And you're not gonna have anything. No utilities. It's gonna be bad.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:08

That's what's going on.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:11

Because it's unconscionable situation.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:15

is only someone who would be in a…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:18

dire, unconscionable…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:21

situation under duress,

[Chris Nero] 19:11:25

would pay someone

[Chris Nero] 19:11:28

who has a power…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:32

above you,

[Chris Nero] 19:11:34

called free energy,

[Chris Nero] 19:11:39

is no different than coming in with a grenade,

[Chris Nero] 19:11:45

And compelling you

[Chris Nero] 19:11:46

To pay them.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:49

Have you guys liked that?

[Chris Nero] 19:11:51

I mean, what can we do?

[Chris Nero] 19:11:55

But that's what's going on.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:59

And if you owe me something,

[Chris Nero] 19:12:03

I gotta tell you what it's for!

[Chris Nero] 19:12:07

Did I… did you… did I mow your lawn? I mowed your lawn. No, you didn't. Come on, Nero, you didn't mow my lawn. All right, I did your roof. No, you didn't do my roof.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:15

That's what's going on here, guys!

[Chris Nero] 19:12:20

You're like, um, I really want to pay…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:25

Hold on a second

[Chris Nero] 19:12:27

I really want to pay you. You're not saying, you don't want to pay them, I want to pay you!

[Chris Nero] 19:12:32

But I need to know WHAT!

[Chris Nero] 19:12:34

And where's the damn OMB number? Who's reporting this?

[Chris Nero] 19:12:40

Are these… am I… am I being…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:43

critical here of asking for this?

[Chris Nero] 19:12:46

Do I see out of order?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:12:49

No.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:50

Or is it the other way around?

[Chris Nero] 19:12:55

Because we don't know who these people are. They're all actors.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:03

mere middle people.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:07

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:09

Charters, pass-throughs.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:13

And at some point,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:15

Because they're a trustee,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:18

And you give a letter like that,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:22

You see, you're gonna get credits.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:26

Because, you see there's…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:29

One day, this world's gonna wake up, and it's gonna be over.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:33

And all those judges, and all those prosecutors, and all those people that broke their oaths,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:38

are going to be out there, because the world is shifting.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:42

And everything's gonna start changing.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:47

It's not going to be fast, but I do believe it's gonna happen.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:52

And we're all going to be part of it.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:54

I don't know about you folks, what you guys listen to, what you're out there watching.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:59

But I'm seeing a lot of people waking up.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:02

There's, like, a lot of crooked judges, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:05

And UCC people, and I mean, it's just blowing up right now.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:12

So, I believe this group is very integral into making

[Chris Nero] 19:14:16

Some major changes down the road.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:19

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:21

I know there's, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:24

Some of us here that maybe what we should do next time is…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:29

If you have court cases or whatnot,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:34

Um, and this is for some, like, maybe, like,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:36

Uh, people that have active cord cases or whatnot, uh, let's bring these into our next, um, our next meeting.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:44

I want people to participate in this group.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:47

And I want everybody to reach out to…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:51

Uh, whether it's Cam or Reyna on the admin,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:54

Uh, and put in there what you want to discuss.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:58

Each one of you that have a topic

[Chris Nero] 19:15:01

that you want to…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:04

discuss next week.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:06

Uh, we're gonna, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:08

we're gonna do that.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:11

Whether it's your court case, a question about UCC,

[Chris Nero] 19:15:14

Uh, your… the 1099 process…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:18

Uh, but be exact on what you want to do.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:22

Uh, Kimberly, I should be done with PNC for us to file.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:26

I've been going back and forth on that because, I mean, it's…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:31

It's such a beautiful piece of work, I just…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:33

Gotta make sure it shines.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:36

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:38

Anybody have anything to say?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:42

No.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:44

You borrow?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:45

Nope.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:53

Ibarra, did they turn you into a clone? What's going on?

[luke ] 19:15:55

You've already… we… we miss you.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:56

I'm good.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:58

Who's that?

[luke ] 19:16:00

That's Luke, I miss you. Haven't hockey in a while.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:05

I know, I think Tom hijacked all my communication methods.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:11

That alter ego's gonna… that's gonna kill you.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:17

Who else… who's intrigued?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:17

How you been? How you been, Ibara?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:22

Who's Altrigg?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:26

Who?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:27

Altrigue? Who's that?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:28

I don't know.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:32

CLTRIQ.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:34

I thought you said Altrig is gonna get you or something. I didn't hear you correctly.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:41

No. No, no, no, no.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:43

I said, Tom is going to get you eventually.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:46

Oh, duh.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:48

I know, I need to go back and listen to one of those. I haven't listened to a Patrick Devine video in…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:53

like, 5 months, that's not good.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:55

Yeah, I'm gonna put one out there for you guys. I mean, you know, he's got a lot of good stuff, it's just, I'm trying to find the one where he had the one where the end…

[Chris Nero] 19:17:04

Where he was talking about some really good stuff, you know?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:11

I really wish there was more stuff on, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:14

And who he learned from, the two… I forgot the second guy,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:18

Um, you said it before, the guy's name, but I never could find anything on him.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:32

Oh, I think we lost you, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:36

Now, hold on, that was Keaton.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:40

No, not him, the other one.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:46

Keating doesn't have enough stuff out there, unless it's hidden in a trove…

[Chris Nero] 19:17:50

You mean with the crowd?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:50

Somewhere…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:52

Yeah, that one, I think.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:55

Trout, he said?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:58

I don't think I've ever seen one video of him, and…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:01

there's not enough… I can't find enough on the Gene guy.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:04

Um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:06

you know, I know it was a long time ago, and stuff has changed, but the information, the foundational knowledge was still good.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:17

So, the thing about it is there's a lot of good… there's a lot of good…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:22

There's some good people out there that…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:24

The problem is, is that, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:29

Um, I think I'm torn between…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:33

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:35

I'm torn between…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:40

the public and the private,

[Chris Nero] 19:18:45

And you and I spoke about this

[Chris Nero] 19:18:48

Um, Ibar up before were…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:50

you know, we had… you know, creditors Academy,

[Chris Nero] 19:18:54

And by no means am I… I'm not knocking anybody, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:58

The fact was is that they dangled

[Chris Nero] 19:19:01

a lot of divine.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:03

And I think, you know, I don't have anything against…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:06

that, or him, or the guy over there, what's his name?

[Chris Nero] 19:19:09

Philip Michael Thomas?

[reina] 19:19:11

Hello, Michael.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:13

Yeah, Paul Michael Thomas, whatever.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:15

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:19:17

So…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:19

they kind of segued off.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:23

from, you know, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:28

fighting, you know, the whole fight is that…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:34

How do we not want to play?

[Chris Nero] 19:19:38

in the public. I don't… I mean…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:40

Just give me my Social Security,

[Chris Nero] 19:19:43

And leave me alone, right? I mean…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:47

But we don't have that option, it seems.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:51

It seems like we are compelled!

[Chris Nero] 19:19:54

Into the slavery here.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:56

And the trick is, how do we operate in it?

[Chris Nero] 19:20:05

maybe the ultimate test is death.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:10

But, you know, while we're here, and we're young,

[Chris Nero] 19:20:16

and energetic, and continually getting more and more knowledge that seems to be coming to us more and more.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:22

Uh, it seems to me…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:29

that we have to continue to shine our hope.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:31

on what we're doing. And…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:36

I guess it's an equilibrium of…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:39

public, private, and we've had this conversation, all of us, before.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:42

about balance.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:45

And it's such a tightrope, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:50

On this hand, you've got a bill of exchange.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:53

A promissory note over here.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:56

Coupons, all this other stuff, and really, at the end of the day,

[Chris Nero] 19:21:00

You got a bunch of liars that…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:03

have really great systems that look really…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:06

professional compared to us bankers.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:13

So, it's important that whatever we're doing, that we put everything in right… I've come to the conclusion that everything in the private

[Chris Nero] 19:21:20

has to be faxed, emailed, or mailed.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:24

Period. They cannot hear you.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:29

They just cannot hear you.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:32

And then when you're done, you gotta know it's done.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:36

And then when you've, like, you know, you look at Kim, and you look at Raina, I brought this up because I'm very, very proud of it.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:42

They are stacked like a brick house. Would you guys agree with me, Kimberly and Raina, all the stuff, the letters?

[reina] 19:21:50

100%.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:54

Because…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:21:58

I agree as well.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:58

They never had? They've never answered!

[Chris Nero] 19:22:02

And even when they did answer, they're just like little kids.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:05

We didn't do anything wrong.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:07

Isn't that what they said, Kim? We didn't do anything wrong.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:22:09

Yeah, exactly.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:11

Like, what are you, 5 years old?

[reina] 19:22:13

Yeah, they play stupid.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:17

What kind of a response is that? Come on, everybody here.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:20

Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:23

Someone, give me some sanity.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:26

And my insanity's sanity.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:22:30

is her sanity. If I receive those letters that I've sent to them,

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:22:34

I would be screaming.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:22:39

they're not.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:39

I wouldn't be saying we didn't do anything wrong.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:22:43

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:46

And then hearing the… the theme song from…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:49

Uh, Sesame Street in the background.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:54

We didn't do anything wrong.

[reina] 19:22:57

Alright, Chris, or Chris.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:57

Come on! You guys have a… you guys have a legal department!

[Chris Nero] 19:23:02

Give me something!

[reina] 19:23:04

For us, or that the address you send it is an automatic address.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:12

No, you didn't get it in the fax?

[Chris Nero] 19:23:15

You didn't get it on the email?

[Chris Nero] 19:23:18

We got a 3811 showing that he got it.

[reina] 19:23:21

You know?

[Chris Nero] 19:23:21

You see, but we wouldn't… but if we wouldn't have stayed on top of this, and that's why I'm gonna give you guys kudos,

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:23:22

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:26

is because as soon as we get a letter, boom! We on it!

[Chris Nero] 19:23:32

Because they're itching to steal.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:37

They're itching!

[Chris Nero] 19:23:40

to teach you a lesson.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:23:42

Yep, they are.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:45

That's why we gotta stay on top of everything. Okay, so I think…

[Chris Nero] 19:23:50

This week, I want you guys to think about something that you… each one of you have that you want to have an… something, whatever it is.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:57

If I can answer it, I will. If I can't, I'll find out how to.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:00

Uh, I'm gonna work on this, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:05

on my 12 months of bank statements.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:11

Um, and you can do a month, or you could do three.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:14

But, um, I gotta go into, uh, to see if it's the barter, which I think it is.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:21

And then we'll, uh…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:24

We'll start there, and you guys can… it can be old bank statements, too.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:30

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:31

Or, in this case, you know, Luke…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:36

wants to do it, you know, the vehicle that's paid off, pull that… pull that back. Those are credits!

[Chris Nero] 19:24:44

Those are credits that have to be accounted for.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:24:48

I have that, too.

[reina] 19:24:49

Yes, I have a question. I have a question, too, on that.

[reina] 19:24:52

Would that be also include anything that we discharge?

[reina] 19:24:56

Oh, no. Yes?

[Chris Nero] 19:24:56

Yes, yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:59

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:01

Yes, because once you have extinguished that debt,

[Chris Nero] 19:25:05

Now it's floating out there.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:08

You gotta pull it back.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:12

balance the books.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:15

Harmony.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:19

There used to be a song…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:20

I'd like to teach the world a song.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:22

perfect harmony. It was a Coca-Cola commercial.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:26

But it became… it became a number one song, because

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:25:27

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:30

you know, everything that you see out there, I like to teach the world a song to live in perfect harmony.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:25:37

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:39

Harmony is a frequency.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:42

Like, universe. Uni, one, verse.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:46

Frequency.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:49

That's why it's important for all of you.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:54

I like candles, because it makes me feel…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:58

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:59

I had a really nice candle, um, thing that happened to me the other day. Let me show it to you.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:08

And they took a picture because it kind of reminded me of the… there's a…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:12

an album from Journey,

[Chris Nero] 19:26:14

And I… Journey was one of my favorite bands.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:18

And, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:21

I had this in my candle,

[Chris Nero] 19:26:26

I don't know if you guys can see that.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:30

Can you see that?

[reina] 19:26:34

Yes, we can see.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:36

Do you see, like, wings, or…?

[Chris Nero] 19:26:41

To close?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:26:43

No.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:26:45

Yeah, I can see something that could…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:26:47

really, you could imagine this. I do see it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:26:50

It looks like an orange blot on my side.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:56

Oh. Well, I just thought it was really…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:11

It worked… it matches your background perfectly.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:19

Well, I don't know, I don't know if you guys can see it, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:21

I'll send it to you on that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:23

Yeah. Wait, is that a… wait, is that, like, in…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:24

What's that?

[reina] 19:27:26

It seems like the heart, like, two wings, heart, something like that.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:27

Huh?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:27

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:31

Is it a Phoenix?

[Chris Nero] 19:27:34

It's a candle!

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:27:34

That's what I thought of when I saw it initially. It looked something like a phoenix.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:36

No, it's my candle!

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:39

What the heck is that? It looks like you're in the light… the skylight, the green lights behind, but it's orange.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:46

Just, like, one big orange blog, huh?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:50

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:50

See, there it is. See it now?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:27:53

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:53

Dude, not really, but…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:57

What is it?

[Chris Nero] 19:27:59

That's my candle. I'll put it on WhatsApp, hold on.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:02

Did it split into two or something?

[Chris Nero] 19:28:03

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:05

That's what I kind of see, but it looks like wings of a phoenix, too.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:11

I'm gonna send you…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:28:11

But you had a twin flame, that's what you're saying.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:14

Well, there's… there's two different ones that I have, like, one…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:21

One of them…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:25

I thought it was very interesting, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:28

It had, like…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:31

very angelical.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:35

And then I saw the journey.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:38

album?

[Chris Nero] 19:28:40

And I thought, man…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:47

I'll show you that one. I put it on WhatsApp. You guys see it?

[Chris Nero] 19:29:02

You guys see it?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:07

No.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:08

And put it on WhatsApp.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:12

Oh. Hold on.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:15

Which is one spot.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:19

This is just a D.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:20

Now, now look at this!

[Chris Nero] 19:29:23

And that's what it reminded me of.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:23

Williamstown, excuse me.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:26

Can you see that?

[Chris Nero] 19:29:29

Can you see it?

[reina] 19:29:32

Yeah, we can see it, Chris.

[luke ] 19:29:34

Yeah, we can see it.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:35

But doesn't that look like the candle thing I sent?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:39

Yeah?

[luke ] 19:29:40

It kind of does.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:29:41

That's

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:42

Send that thing too, can you?

[Chris Nero] 19:29:44

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:46

Um, stupid.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:48

Pam.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:55

So, I thought…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:59

So I just sent it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:01

near rush now, I want outdoor operator

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:04

That stadium, a football stadium, in Tampa Bay. I saw, Buffy?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:08

Probably the… the Yankees, actually.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:12

Do you guys get it?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:18

Okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:25

But still

[reina] 19:30:26

Deva, you might want to mute.

[reina] 19:30:29

yourself, please.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:31

Okay, so you guys see that little red at the bottom?

[Chris Nero] 19:30:39

I don't know, I just came in and my candle was on, I took a picture, I thought it was pretty awesome, that's all.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:44

Oh, way at the bottom, the red thing?

[Chris Nero] 19:30:45

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:53

Oh yeah, I can see the similarity and parallel, for sure.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:57

No, I just thought it was very… if you blow it up, it's very beautiful. It has, like, a face in there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:31:02

Was it good at cooperation?

[Chris Nero] 19:31:04

It kind of reminds me, like, a little… like, a little Tinkerbell face, if you blow it up, like the…

[Chris Nero] 19:31:16

Two little feet at the bottom.