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[Chris Nero] 18:13:38

And nor a lot of people…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:41

that you may come across.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:44

from time to time.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:49

But…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:51

you know, I don't want to say people get lucky, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:53

You have to have the forms.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:56

in order. So, everything's a zero till you hit…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:00

26, 29, and 30.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:06

Okay?

[Chris Nero] 18:14:12

And then the second page is all zeros.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:18

And then the third page is…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:20

Obviously, you're gonna… line 14, you're gonna mark that box.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:14:26

Chris, can we go back to the second page?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:14:29

Uh, this part right here, number 8.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:29

Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:14:31

Right here. Uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:32

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:14:35

If that stays blank, or we should put something in there?

[Chris Nero] 18:14:37

Yes. Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:14:40

stay blank.

[damone johnson] 18:14:48

Chris, on the, uh, on the first part, on the first page?

[Chris Nero] 18:14:51

Uh-huh.

[damone johnson] 18:14:53

Uh, Section F.

[damone johnson] 18:14:56

Is there anything we need to put in there?

[damone johnson] 18:14:59

Like, underneath the, uh, the city of…

[damone johnson] 18:15:01

you know, city and town, uh, says F, check, like, initial return, final return.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:06

No. No.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:09

No.

[damone johnson] 18:15:10

All blank, all blank.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:11

Yeah, you're not doing any of that.

[damone johnson] 18:15:14

topic.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:17

Yeah, these are not our… an initial return would be like, you know, like, when people file…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:24

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:26

like H&R Block does it, or whatever.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:29

The only thing that we're doing here, guys, is look…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:35

These forms…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:37

You can do as many as you want.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:41

For those of you who are, you know, divine, uh, you know, um,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:47

Fans, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:49

You know, when I started listening to Divine, I just…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:53

I don't know, I just like to style, and quite frankly, I thought he was funny.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:59

And I kind of got hooked on him.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:04

And I just… it was like…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:07

It's a way to be on Saturday Night Live, but get educated. Put it like that.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:13

And I thought to myself,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:15

In the beginning, I thought, this guy is fucking brilliant, but he's crazy.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:21

And then… there's sometimes when he just makes you laugh, I mean…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:26

He's… he's… you know, he's brutal sometimes with the women.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:32

Um, because he's like… and he'll say,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:37

Uh, women shouldn't be voting because the original Bible said this and that, and you're an executrix, and you don't have any power to go into the courtroom, and, you know, this and that, but, you know, he…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:49

he initially, um… and if you study trust law, he's right, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:55

You got executor, executives, but it doesn't mean, though, that you don't have power.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:02

But he didn't…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:04

He was very, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:09

It was very archaic in a lot of ways.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:11

But he…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:15

He… what I got out of him, let me put it like this…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:24

I've never was a guy that played…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:28

Um, I mean, I played sports, like football, basketball, baseball…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:33

track martial arts, I did all that stuff, you know, just…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:37

Honestly, it was just to get the hell out of the house, but I did it, and I loved it. I loved being out.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:42

But I never was into, like, the games. I mean, we had pinball…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:47

And maybe Space Invaders…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:51

and Gallica, but we had to go pay for that, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:54

We didn't have the machines or anything like that, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:58

Today, I see…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:01

a lot of people love to play the games, and, you know, they're like, oh, I found this weapon, I found that.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:08

to me, listening to Keaton and listening to…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:15

divine or Christian Walters, or David Clarence.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:19

David Clarence was on that.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:22

talk shoe, or whatever, all the time, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:25

They were all brilliant in their own way. David Clarence always focused on the…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:31

Department of Transportation about how you take yourself out of there, and that's a big thing, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:37

It's a process, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:39

They've changed so much since…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:41

these people were on there?

[Chris Nero] 18:18:44

on purpose.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:46

Just like your… your passports.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:50

And, you know, I'm gonna be updating my passport

[Chris Nero] 18:18:56

And, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:01

So, what I'm trying… what I'm trying to get at is that

[Chris Nero] 18:19:07

These folks and many folks that I come across,

[Chris Nero] 18:19:12

are, like…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:14

these video games that… that… that these…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:18

everybody plays… I don't want to say kids, everybody plays them. I don't… I don't have anything against them, I just…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:24

I can't be in the computer, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:27

Um,

[Chris Nero] 18:19:30

I put my earphones, and I lay down, and I listen to a lot of this stuff, you know, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:35

And I… I get a real kick out of, uh, keyed-in, divine, a lot, you know, Keaton was actually Divine's

[Chris Nero] 18:19:43

Um, mentor.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:46

And, uh, David, Clarence, you guys can pull them up. I mean, he's the one that started with the executor.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:52

Um, those… those paperwork, and I learned a lot from him.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:57

and I used them before… I've used them…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:59

And some… some cases where I've done the UCC1, UCC3,

[Chris Nero] 18:20:04

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:07

And, uh, Christian Walters, great man, that guy was so awesome.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:12

I mean, he ended up, you know, they all… they're all dead now.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:17

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:19

David Wynn Miller,

[Chris Nero] 18:20:23

All of these folks…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:26

are brilliant.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:29

I'm barely now…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:31

And I… I think I told… I… you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:20:33

Jason Navar and I had a conversation of…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:36

How does David Wynn Miller?

[Chris Nero] 18:20:41

How can he be effective?

[Chris Nero] 18:20:44

when a lot of people don't understand quantum language.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:50

And that's true in part.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:53

But what you gotta grasp out of every…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:56

One of these people, these men or women, whoever it is,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:02

is you have to have your eyes open, and I mean your mind open, and your ears…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:08

really, like, listening for, like, oh,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:10

Like, you know these… when you guys are playing… when people are playing these games, they're like, oh, there's… there's a trash can, there's a microwave, and I'm like, what?

[Chris Nero] 18:21:17

There's a weapon inside there. It's kind of like that. Oh.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:20

Did you… I catch it?

[Chris Nero] 18:21:24

And I picked something up.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:27

And lately, what I've been getting out of David Wynn Miller, because, you see, I keep…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:32

I can't help it.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:35

I keep going back.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:38

I feel like I'm missing something.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:41

David Wynn Miller was arresting judges.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:45

That's a fact.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:49

And so I've been going back on…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:51

focusing on that one point.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:56

We can do citizens' arrest.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:00

with more than 4 notaries.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:02

by putting in information together.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:06

And making a citizen's arrest with the constable.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:11

But it's…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:22:11

You have to know that it's Chris, just wanted to let you know.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:14

Yes, thank you.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:16

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:18

You see, guys, we…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:23

are the people.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:25

What we have here…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:29

is a tribunal.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:32

So, when everybody's like, well, you know, the state needs to do something about the roads, the government needs to do something about the hunger of the hungry people.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:42

The starving people, the homeless people.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:45

The government ain't gonna do jack shit for anybody, cause…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:48

The government doesn't have arms or legs, and anybody that's inside the government are all actors.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:54

This whole world is a fictional stage.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:58

If you haven't already been told so many times, whether Shakespeare told you, the world is a stage, you are an actor, whether you like it or not, when they tell you, stop acting like that, they're telling you.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:09

You need to act better as a child. Whoa.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:12

I'm an actor.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:15

What you don't comprehend is that everything out here is fiction, everything is dead.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:25

They're not committing fraud in the way that you think they are.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:32

We know it's fraud. Let me start recording.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:35

What? I'm sorry, did you start recording? No, I didn't start recording.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:39

Is that more of an image?

[Chris Nero] 18:23:42

Thanks, Jason.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:47

Oh, no, Ricardo did the record button right there. You see it? No, white over there?

[Chris Nero] 18:23:52

Sorry, I'm here.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:55

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:58

record to the cloud.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:00

Nope, not…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:02

The computer product, MC.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:05

Sorry, guys.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:24:08

Oh, come on, Jason, come on.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:13

Hey, come on now, is this a little bit of tomfoolery?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:24:14

Too much…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:24:16

With too much wine at the Catholic Church today?

[Chris Nero] 18:24:19

Yep, exactly. Yeah, too much.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:21

So…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:24

don't feel as fire. Anyhow…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:27

The thing about it is, look,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:32

And there's… there's people that I'm… I'm working with

[Chris Nero] 18:24:36

like Kim and Raina,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:38

and look that I'm, you know, getting to more applying with Luke, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:45

there's things that…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:48

we're doing…

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that you have to be wise.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:54

And cunning.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:57

Because once you start arguing,

[Chris Nero] 18:25:00

And getting discombobulated.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:05

And I'm getting better at it, and I'm getting more clear-minded.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:10

clear-minded at it.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:14

But we're all human, and we all get frustrated.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:17

And that's never going to change, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:20

But it does mean that we can also pull away.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:26

And now comprehend that the whole wor… what the world that we know external.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:37

is like children.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:42

And, like, whether it's the, you know, us children playing with our fingers, there's a gun, and we say, shoot, you fall, or…

[Chris Nero] 18:25:49

You're playing with your daughter when she's a child, and you're drinking Imaginary Tea.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:54

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:03

I'm in a Zoom.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:06

My daughter. So…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:09

That's where we're at, guys. We're in this world. We're in the external world.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:17

And I have to give this to your mind so that you can comprehend the difference between

[Chris Nero] 18:26:22

The external, and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:24

what we call ourselves

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as men and women and souls.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:32

You see, they want us… they… they…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:35

they play tricks.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:38

And I go through it.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:48

you have to comprehend that

[Chris Nero] 18:26:53

what we're dealing with out here…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:56

this fictional…

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dead people.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:01

And they're like…

[Chris Nero] 18:27:04

They're children. They're mentally in a different world.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:07

And so, even though you tell them,

[Chris Nero] 18:27:10

you know, I didn't give you… Kim and I were talking about this, and Raina, you know, I didn't give you, um… I didn't… you didn't give me consideration.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:20

they call it value.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:24

And performance…

[Chris Nero] 18:27:26

And this is why when we're going into the court now, it's about

[Chris Nero] 18:27:30

breach of performance.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:34

Because if we go in there with the judges talking about this and talking about that, yes, we're right, but

[Chris Nero] 18:27:43

We put something together that's so brilliant,

[Chris Nero] 18:27:48

that I wouldn't even want to show up.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:51

But I'm ready.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:54

The thing about what we're doing in court is the same thing for everything, and I was having a talk with one of my clients, Scott.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:04

Um,

[Chris Nero] 18:28:05

Everything is about validation.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:09

Your court case is about debt validation.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:15

Because they gave you an agreement.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:20

Did you agree to it?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:24

So you have a right to say,

[Chris Nero] 18:28:28

like Jason Ibarra, he's dealing with these attorneys, and they want him to sign something, but he doesn't want to sign it.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:34

And so they say… he… they answer him.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:38

And I would say, Jason, they're in a conundrum, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:28:43

Um, yeah, and the court.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:28:46

And I had a… I called the, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:28:48

the lady that's in charge of the ADR program.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:28:52

And I… because after I… I don't think I told you this, actually, because when I sent them the, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:28:56

Um, the…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:28:59

stick… what is it, the conditional acceptance?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:02

they… they quickly filed

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:05

the original paperwork with no signature, and I called… I called her up a couple days later just to mess with her.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:11

And I'm like, what are you doing? I got a conditional acceptance out there, and we gotta give them a few days to respond.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:17

Like, are you… do I need to put you on a list of the cons… of the conspirators?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:24

And she got all nervous, like, oh, you know, my supervisor told me I just need to get it in.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:29

I said, okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:32

So, yeah, there's definitely some weird shit going on, but it's kind of…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:37

fun to watch them a little bit.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:39

But, you see, the thing about it, guys, is that

[Chris Nero] 18:29:42

you see…

[Chris Nero] 18:29:44

There's only one real…

[Chris Nero] 18:29:47

creditor. Let's…

[Chris Nero] 18:29:49

let's go with something deeper.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:52

Let's… let's hit the heart.

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And the soul of the matter.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:01

We are men and women.

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And any public figure

[Chris Nero] 18:30:09

will never be a man or a woman, but let's go deeper.

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they will never be a true soul or a spirit.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:23

So what we do…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:28

is we gotta balance.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:32

to children.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:34

We're not…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:37

I do believe that…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:41

just if I'm gonna be honest, I do believe we have to destroy this system.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:52

I don't see any other way.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:55

But that's left for another time.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:58

But I just want to be clear.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:00

of where I stand.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:06

And I'm about ready to start doing…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:10

Um, taken down…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:12

and changing things that are going to be very, very…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:16

destructive for a lot of these government officials coming up. I'm either going to do it Monday or Tuesday, finally got all the financials, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:23

I got everything ready, I got all the…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:27

Um, the oats were lack thereof.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:31

And I'm going to put all these judges…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:37

on record, and there's a lot of people that they've…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:40

stolen from and put their people in prison, or taken their houses.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:47

You see, these… these… these judges…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:50

so-called judges

[Chris Nero] 18:31:54

are destroying

[Chris Nero] 18:31:55

people's lives.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:58

And these attorneys…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:03

that shouldn't even be in there, because they don't have first-hand personal knowledge

[Chris Nero] 18:32:07

Whether they're coming in for the state, the state don't have arms, they don't have legs, it can't think, it can't talk.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:15

So you can't represent a state

[Chris Nero] 18:32:19

There's no affidavits, hence…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:21

I plead guilty to the facts, I need the certified charges.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:25

That's… I need the affidavit.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:33

The attorneys don't have first-hand personal knowledge.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:39

How are they representing a dead entity?

[Chris Nero] 18:32:45

Why don't we ever see the CEO?

[Chris Nero] 18:32:49

You see where we're going wrong with this.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:58

And… and it's the same thing

[Chris Nero] 18:33:00

Um, with your cars, or your credit cards, or your mortgages.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:05

Um, when they shut down your credit card,

[Chris Nero] 18:33:09

It's because…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:12

They're your client.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:15

And like any consumer, because those are their consumer laws,

[Chris Nero] 18:33:21

for them.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:23

Not for us, because we're the creditors.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:28

They have the right

[Chris Nero] 18:33:31

to pull out. If it's a non-secured item or whatever.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:38

But they don't have the right to run off with your credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:43

But how much time do you have?

[Chris Nero] 18:33:47

I will tell you…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:50

It's overwhelming.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:57

I mean, I have a different type of mindset for me, so what I call overwhelming.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:02

like, for you folks,

[Chris Nero] 18:34:07

like, one or two things, or three things can be, like,

[Chris Nero] 18:34:11

overwhelming to the point to where…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:13

You can't think.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:16

You're spiritually fogged.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:18

Emotionally fogged, you can't…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:20

operate, you don't know what you're doing, the days going by so fast.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:23

You can't get one or two things done.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:26

that's what happens. This is the world you're in now, because you're in between.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:30

you're in between the blurred lines.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:32

And you're not… you're fighting spirits and principalities now.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:37

I mean, I gotta tell you, I deal with it all the time.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:41

Especially sometimes at night, I have…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:43

There's really strange things that I have to deal with.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:46

And I'll leave that for another story, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:54

I just… I want you… I want you… I want you folks to understand that, look,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:00

I'm… I'm a… I'm just… I'm like you.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:04

I've learned a lot of things along the way. I was talking to Jim yesterday, how I…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:09

I made so many mistakes.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:13

I was the one that I was identity theft.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:16

I was like, who isn't taking my identity? And then I'd call in there, and they're like, here's my mother's… I was the guy.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:22

Because I didn't have all my credentials.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:26

I didn't have my 56. And then I filled out my 56, and then 6 months went by, I didn't have my 56F. They didn't tell me, hey, you need your 56F. Then I finally got the 56F. Then the 2848, then the CAF, then the TCC.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:40

And all these things that were still against me, and I'm shooting out 1099s and all kinds of stuff.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:50

frustrated. Doing things for my son, doing things for my properties.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:56

fighting sheriffs, fighting judges, fighting the best law firms out there.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:03

So, if I can, you know, educate you in any way,

[Chris Nero] 18:36:08

that is focus your…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:11

If you're gonna get involved in something. I understand, like, if it's a court case, you have to defend yourself, you don't have a choice.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:17

You either make your standard, you know, you're gonna lose your position. It's very easy to lose your position out here, because these…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:24

These entities are demonic.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:32

You're fighting…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:34

I don't… I'm not a person that likes to label anything, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:38

I mean, let's… let's… let's call it what we can all comprehend, which is…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:42

They're demonic.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:47

We're not from here.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:49

It's just a… it's just a big prison. We're not from here. We're… but we're here on a mission for whatever that is.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:56

We're… all of us here today is not by chance.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:03

We're definitely changing the world, believe me.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:06

And as we continue to be disruptors,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:12

We're doing great things.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:15

So, to get back…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:18

The reason that I want you guys to do this, because you guys all have the opportunity,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:24

I believe…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:27

To get yourself some relief.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:31

Because that's my wish for all of you.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:36

But I wanted to make clear that I am…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:41

a man and a soul.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:45

And no different than…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:47

what you are,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:50

as a soul, a man, or a woman.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:53

none of us are better than any of us. We're all here to learn from each other. That includes me.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:00

And the reason that I mention all these names of all these people is because

[Chris Nero] 18:38:05

We should always…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:07

Um, keep our minds open.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:11

But we have to also be cautious

[Chris Nero] 18:38:15

Because it's so easy to wander

[Chris Nero] 18:38:19

down that road, or this road, or that road.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:24

There's so many breadcrumbs that are out there.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:29

And I'm guilty of it.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:33

And, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:38

Hold on.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:44

Let me see…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:48

So…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:51

I'm also, like, that's why I get so upset with myself sometimes, because, you know, in the past, looking back, I was like,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:57

And I tell this, I use that, there's… I don't know, there's some guy that used this reference, he was like,

[Chris Nero] 18:39:03

You're following breadcrumbs full of urine.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:06

Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:09

And you… you want to get that in your mind, because, you know, you're like, oh, why am I following this? Why am I falling that?

[Chris Nero] 18:39:15

I'm not saying that you… not to venture, I'm just saying it's like watching a movie, you know, or…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:21

you know, people bange… you have to do… you have to be cautious and guard your heart and guard your mind.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:27

It's so easy!

[Chris Nero] 18:39:31

You know, that includes me from going for work,

[Chris Nero] 18:39:35

And just hanging on there and making it better than…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:38

going to something else. Let me try this, let me try that.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:41

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:39:45

This is an opportunity for you folks.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:49

to do the 1041.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:52

And then the 1099…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:55

When you get that in…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:57

And the 1041 and the 1096 has to be done by hand.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:05

Do you guys have questions?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:40:11

Um, actually, I do, Chris. Let me pull up the…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:40:16

Hold on one second.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:22

While Rena's pulling that up, Chris, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:24

Will this be, like, a step 3 that we want to develop?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:27

Or you just want to just get it all done.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:29

like, individually.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:33

No, I… I… I… I think that…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:36

you know, my belief is, is that…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:41

If you send it out, you will get it back.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:44

No, well, no, what I mean, like…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:47

Like, Rena and Kimberly,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:48

I sent them the… the first two things, you know, to get the 1099s working.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:53

But technically, I don't have that third part, because remember, we, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:58

We send everything in to get the ledgers created with the $10 million and the 250 minus the $50,000.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:05

you know, contribution, but now we got this, um… we didn't do this

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:09

We didn't do this part.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:12

No.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:12

that, you know, the voucher,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:14

No. No, no, we didn't.

[damone johnson] 18:41:18

You know, could you, uh, go over the voucher real fast?

[Chris Nero] 18:41:22

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:23

Uh, one second, let's finish with the 1041 first, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:27

No, didn't you have a question? Raina, you had a question?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:27

Um, on the third…

[damone johnson] 18:41:27

Oh yeah, copy that.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:30

Yes, on the third page, right here, what I'm highlighting, 14, line 14.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:35

Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:35

We have to check the lining.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:37

Yes. Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:38

Okay. All right. Anybody has any other questions on 1041?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:41:44

Ana, could you repeat that? You're looking at the 1041B?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:46

So

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:48

1041, page 3.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:49

It would…

[kimberlybyrd] 18:41:50

Well, page 3, okay. All right.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:51

Line 14.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:41:53

I don't know, 14.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:41:55

Okay. So…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:59

We're gonna mark that ballot.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:01

If zero, correct?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:02

No, you gotta check more the bots.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:03

There's a box.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:05

Okay, wait a minute, let me checkmark that box.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:08

Okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:42:09

wait, which one? Your highlight didn't work.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:12

1041, 104…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:12

Scheduled… Schedule G, Line 14…

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:12

It's

[Chris Nero] 18:42:16

check here the box, it says…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:19

If any, from…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:22

Forms 1099, and then that's also $250,000.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:26

in that line.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:28

In that line, 250?

[Chris Nero] 18:42:30

Yes.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:32

So it's in line 19 and line 14.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:34

should be $250, correct?

[Chris Nero] 18:42:39

Yes, that's correct.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:40

Okay, great.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:42:43

Effort effort.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:43

say, 19, also?

[Chris Nero] 18:42:47

Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:48

150?

[Chris Nero] 18:42:50

Yeah, that's on the line.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:42:51

Wait, you're…

[damone johnson] 18:42:52

Since we're on the same page with 19,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:53

Mine, too.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:42:53

Okay.

[damone johnson] 18:42:55

Uh, the next section that says other information, do we need to fill any of that out?

[Chris Nero] 18:42:59

Yeah, because it just said you gotta add, uh, 12 through.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:03

And then 19 comes out to 250. No, you're not filling out anything there, you leave that blank.

[damone johnson] 18:43:08

Okay, all that's blank, copy.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:43:11

Yeah, that's the example you sent out, Chris.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:43:15

That box was filled in.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:43:16

It's not a check mark, but you just filled it in.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:18

Uh-huh. Yeah, because if you read… if you read right there, 19.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:43:20

Alright, any other question?

[Chris Nero] 18:43:24

So you guys gotta… you guys gotta read.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:26

Total, and now I sound like…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:29

divide. Total payments add lines 12 through 18. Enter here on page…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:37

Um, one…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:38

Uh, line 26.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:43:40

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:40

So you see that right there? That's why you go back.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:45

And number one, and you fill out line 26.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:49

You got that?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:43:49

So, yeah, but Chris, so that means we're taking out the $50,000 part of it?

[Chris Nero] 18:43:54

Don't worry about it, just don't worry about it, just put the 250 in there.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:43:55

in the original…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:44:00

Well, what we gotta worry about it a little bit, because that's the original instructions we sent.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:04

Yeah, I know, but… and this one right here, it'll balance itself out. You just…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:09

if you're filling this out.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:44:10

Gotcha, alright.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:44:14

Any other question on 1041, anybody?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:44:18

Anybody?

[Chris Nero] 18:44:19

Remember, if you read that, it said go back to line 26.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:44:25

Yeah. No, I see that. I was just talking about the letter of instructions, and does this connect to it?

[Chris Nero] 18:44:32

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:44:34

I mean, I really don't want to give a $50,000 tip if I can… if I can hold back on that, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:44:40

Yeah, that'll just come out…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:43

You'll get your 250.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:47

And… whatever you have in your transcripts, you can go back.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:44:51

Yeah, what are we tipping… these… what are we tipping for? These people take forever.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:57

You're not going to tip anything.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:59

At this point.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:45:02

Yep, okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:04

How long do you think it will take before we see anything on this, Chris?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:45:09

5 years.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:11

Uh, maybe, like, a month, 3 weeks, 4 weeks.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:15

Awesome.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:17

Uh, so we move into 1041B.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:25

Yeah, the VES.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:45:29

That's pretty… I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory, right?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:38

Press on the same question on the 1041B would be, we are the fiduciary of…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:45:39

I guess…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:45

in the 1041B as well, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:45:47

Yes, you'll be the trustee.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:51

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:52

You're gonna have, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:45:55

You won't… number one's gonna be your social. Everything comes from your social, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:00

You own your social. That's your credit card.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:03

I mean, you don't, but you're the trustee,

[Chris Nero] 18:46:08

for the decedent social security number.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:12

Remember your estate.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:46:12

Number one. Number one says EIN, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:20

that's gonna be your so-col, again, that'll be your social with no dashes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:46:20

On the 1041 bill.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:46:25

Okay, social renewal dash.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:29

Everything!

[Chris Nero] 18:46:31

I can't…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:33

I can never go back in anything that I've ever done, now, then…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:40

that has not…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:43

anyone has ever not asked me for my EIN, even when I go and I turn on the utilities, your social.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:49

Yeah, it's the AN with your social.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:53

And the only way I went around that at the bank was using my passport.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:59

And they still want your social!

[Jason Ibarra] 18:47:02

Yeah. I mean, it's like a transmitting utility.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:07

That is your credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:10

your credit card.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:47:13

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:13

If you look up the definition of credit card,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:17

your social security number,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:19

is that. All right, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:47:23

You need to put parentheses

[Chris Nero] 18:47:26

on your $250,000, that's your negative.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:39

And the name is going to be of your trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:46

3 is your trust.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:47:46

The one…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:47:48

Yeah, the one you used for the 1099s?

[Chris Nero] 18:47:53

And then your name as T-T-E-E.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:01

And then your address of where you want your check to go to.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:06

Don't worry about brackets right now.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:15

Any questions?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:19

Um, send… we're sending that with the 1040.

[damone johnson] 18:48:21

Nope.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:24

All those skills in one packet.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:27

Got it.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:28

This is an underwriting package, guys.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:33

Ooh, that's a powerful word.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:34

So let's…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:34

Chris, I don't have a question. Um, where…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:38

Specifically, we met in these two.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:41

Which… which I do?

[Chris Nero] 18:48:41

Uh, I'll give you the address that's going to Ogden.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:45

Ogden, Utah.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:47

But Chris, you just said something kind of interesting.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:51

about the, uh… this is an underwriting package.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:55

Mm-hmm.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:48:57

I don't know if you're going to elaborate on that or not.

[damone johnson] 18:49:01

You know, what is all that included in that package?

[Chris Nero] 18:49:04

Well, your 1096…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:49:05

Oh, come on.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:10

is, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:12

like, an under… this is like the underwriter.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:15

you're putting the whole package together, your 1096 has your name,

[Chris Nero] 18:49:21

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:23

And then you're gonna have, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:26

all your information that goes on there.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:31

Uh, which it's gonna be, uh, your street address,

[Chris Nero] 18:49:35

Uh, you're… where you live…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:40

Uh, name of the person you want to contact can be… that's you.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:44

You can put your telephone number, you don't have to if you don't want.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:47

Email… I put everything there.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:50

And then you're gonna have… and then you're gonna put your social security number with dashes.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:59

See, this is your… the opposite.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:03

Remember, you got debits and credits.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:06

So, Devine used to say that your social security number with dashes

[Chris Nero] 18:50:13

means that they're stopping the flow.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:19

So, it's like a charge-off and a chargeback.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:22

Mind you. And then your 1041V

[Chris Nero] 18:50:28

releases the funds.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:30

with no…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:33

Um,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:36

No spaces.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:39

Of course, you're gonna have one 1099,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:43

Uh, the federal income tax that's withheld.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:47

There's 250,000.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:49

Do you know why it's being withheld?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:56

No. Why?

[Chris Nero] 18:50:59

Because you haven't freed it.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:51:00

Because then…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:51:04

Wait, what was the word you said?

[Chris Nero] 18:51:05

You have a free… you haven't freed…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:09

As I told you earlier, when I found out, really, I was the one that was the one that they were saying was identity theft.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:51:16

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:17

And when you see a withheld,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:20

Of course, it's being withheld, because only the master can get it.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:25

So where it's not withheld, because now we're coming in,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:29

we're saying we're the original.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:32

interest.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:51:34

Well,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:34

to be discounted back to us.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:51:37

Yeah, in essence, they don't know who we are.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:41

Yes, they don't know who you are.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:43

You've been gone, whatever, however you want to look at it.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:47

And then you want the total…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:50

reported.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:51

Do you… do you see what they're saying to you here?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:51:51

Mm-hmm.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:51:55

Good day.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:56

You're reporting now.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:59

an information.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:01

And information is an instrument.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:06

But if you don't report this, how will they know?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:52:11

It won't.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:13

Okay, so… when you get a utility bill,

[Chris Nero] 18:52:18

How does the IRS know you're making that payment?

[Chris Nero] 18:52:25

They don't, because they don't have an OMB.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:30

And did you guys ever study the paper Reduction Act? Only… only, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:35

a true… the only true bill…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:38

has to have an OMB.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:41

Do you guys know that, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:52:44

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:52:45

Yeah, that's why you see a lot of, um, on the court cases,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:52:49

They just write Truebill in somewhere in the document, and hope that you don't really figure it out.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:52:56

I pulled up some court cases, and I couldn't believe it. I'm like, what the hell?

[Chris Nero] 18:52:56

Yup.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:02

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:04

Because…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:07

They are, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:09

They are, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:12

a non-profit,

[Chris Nero] 18:53:16

But really, they are a false profit.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:21

profiteering.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:26

Another words, they're saying we're not really… we're not really getting paid here, because, you know, we're… we're private.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:33

That's why they create their private.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:36

They're a private establishment, and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:38

they're really…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:40

wink, wink.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:42

We don't need to make these tax payments.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:46

Until we request

[Chris Nero] 18:53:49

See, it only becomes mandate when we request it.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:54

And when they deny us, then you go in there and you whistleblow a 2111 and a 3949.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:00

They're taking your identity, they're not paying their taxes when their debts have become due.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:07

And that is what you have to do, because you are the government.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:13

And as Devine used to say, you have…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:15

some bad…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:19

um… servants.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:25

And if you have bad…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:29

servants, then you have to deal with them.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:32

It's just the way it is.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:35

There's nobody that's gonna come and save you.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:40

I've learned that. If I've learned anything, I've learned that.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:46

And when you come to that point in your life, and you, Rick, you realize that,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:51

That's when you're gonna get your first headache.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:56

Because you realize you're alone.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:01

And if you don't know how to handle yourself,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:05

It's even worse.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:07

then you can go insane.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:13

A lot of people do.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:18

This is life…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:22

changing.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:25

You want to be a king?

[Chris Nero] 18:55:28

You want to be a queen?

[Chris Nero] 18:55:31

Or… whatever.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:33

Make it normal on its face.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:36

You want to rule your own life?

[Chris Nero] 18:55:42

then you have to educate yourself.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:46

You know why I want this to happen for you? Because…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:51

The way the system is designed,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:54

So that you're so encumbered…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:57

that you will NEVER educate yourself.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:02

Because you gotta go pay this, you gotta go pay that, you gotta go pay this.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:12

So you never really have the time, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:16

I'll tell you, the real money is your time.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:24

And this is why I…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:27

really believe that when you do this, I know it's…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:30

you know, like I said last time, you know, going back to…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:35

Um, the basics of what worked, and instead of…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:41

me listening over here, and listening over there, and going over here, and digging too deep,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:50

In other words, wanting more.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:55

I want this system, I can do this system, I could do that system.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:59

You know, we can do anything we want. I mean, I just… I told… I always make a joke out of this every time I can when I talk to you.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:07

Patrick Devine created a 1099-V.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:12

I said, many times I don't know what the hell was…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:14

I was looking for a 1099-V. He just literally created it, put it on his show.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:20

And I was like, man, there ain't no 1099-V the IRS has.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:24

But he was right.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:26

You can create anything you want.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:29

You can make anything happen,

[Chris Nero] 18:57:34

But if you don't know how to play the game…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:38

That's not gonna happen.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:42

The system has been around

[Chris Nero] 18:57:44

Now…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:48

Forever. Now.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:52

You're thinking about the past and all this bullshit. There is none of that.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:58

You're so focused on doing shit so that you can have the future, there is none of that. It's now!

[Chris Nero] 18:58:07

All the crap that they teach you about the past is bullshit!

[Chris Nero] 18:58:20

It's just… it's crap.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:22

The only thing that exists is what you want right now.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:28

And everything else is a distraction.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:33

You want your life to change,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:36

You gotta… you have to start changing your mind inside here.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:40

So…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:42

The only thing that I could figure is that, you know, let's get you guys some…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:47

you know, some relief.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:50

All right, so any more questions on the 1096?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:58:54

Yes.

[damone johnson] 18:58:55

Uh, yes, uh, I think I missed, uh, Section 5.

[damone johnson] 18:58:59

Was that the total amount?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:01

Yes. And the reporting, why… the question was,

[damone johnson] 18:59:02

$2.50.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:07

When I do this,

[Chris Nero] 18:59:10

Are you questioning…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:12

like, hey, why does… why does… what does, uh, why does it…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:16

$250,000.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:18

Total amount… re…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:21

reported.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:24

Because this…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:27

You see?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:30

We've been brainwashed

[Chris Nero] 18:59:32

to hide.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:35

income, incoming.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:39

and coming.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:43

that we don't even understand what the words mean to for…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:47

Close.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:49

foreclosure.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:53

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:57

We have to… we have to really just, like, have a child's mind, like, just go back to the basics. I mean, I was just doing that with Jason, I was like,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:05

Just write this down. It's real simple.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:07

Debt validation, credit cards! Bah!

[Chris Nero] 19:00:10

Ready to, oh, I really need to… no, you don't need to put a stick, just write it down. Just go, let's move.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:17

Sometimes you just… just gotta be…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:21

you know, boom.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:23

I shot you. You're dead. Fall.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:28

Sometimes you have to have that mindset of,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:31

It doesn't need to be all this other stuff, just…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:34

play the game.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:36

See, divine, he was brilliant, but he didn't want to play the game.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:41

keyed in, didn't want to play the game.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:44

David Wynn Miller, all he wanted to do was just fucking…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:47

you know, I get it.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:50

All these people…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:54

I have… I have a piece of them in me.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:58

And I don't disagree that that…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:00

Like I told you.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:03

The system…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:07

is the opposite of the light.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:08

what we are.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:12

My blood is blue inside, internal.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:15

And it is plasma.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:19

The water and the dust…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:23

is an illusion. Molecular and atoms.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:28

And the light causes the image?

[Chris Nero] 19:01:30

But the reality is, all this is gone, and all we have is plasma.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:36

Blue.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:38

And then around us…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:42

is…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:46

the dark matter.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:49

that's around us.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:52

And we are the lights.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:56

We can't see where the light because we're entrapped in this vessel.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:00

But there's light.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:07

Because that's what plasma is.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:11

Nobody ever thinks that, you know, what is…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:14

Now, what is plasma? What is…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:16

blood, you know? It's like…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:18

It's plasma, man.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:21

were lights. Our bones are shining, too.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:25

That's why we have, uh, magnesium.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:32

Sometimes people that take a little bit too much magnesium, sometimes you can glow, and you look at the…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:38

Uh, you know, some of these old gurus back in the day, you know?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:41

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:44

You have to, you know, you have to take care of yourself from within. It's easier said than done, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:49

Guard your heart, guard your mind, because that's the real thing.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:52

And, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:55

But, you know, I just… I know I digress, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:00

There's so much that…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:02

I really spiritually want to talk about, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:06

You know…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:08

the reality is, is that…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:11

everybody needs…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:15

to be prosperous out here.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:19

phosphorus enlightened.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:23

Like, so…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:24

when you read…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:27

what you're reporting

[Chris Nero] 19:03:30

R.E.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:33

is…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:35

A positive.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:37

Because it's…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:40

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:48

Incoming, internal…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:53

And, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:56

You have to look at the words. They're this word game that's going on so that you can comprehend that…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:02

See, they don't want you to report, because they, you know, reporting is like a bad thing, you know, hey,

[Chris Nero] 19:04:08

Report here, report… I don't want to re… oh, now I'm tax evading, I'm tax evading, right?

[Chris Nero] 19:04:16

you're bringing harmony.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:20

Because I put something out there the other day.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:24

I didn't, you know, I'm not always poetic, so I put it in, I try to get…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:27

better answer for you folks.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:30

And it's about…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:33

taken the responsibility.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:37

And you're acquiring it?

[Chris Nero] 19:04:40

And then you're gonna forgive it.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:44

Because you can, through trust.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:49

And the trust is the heir.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:53

The law of the air. And the air is…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:56

what we breathe in the highest.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:00

So…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:03

We know that we are doing something good. We are forgiving their debt for they not know what they do.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:13

And then we have to balance it out.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:16

And bring it back to the originator.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:22

and, you know, we get what we get, and then we start doing things that will change.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:27

Inside the world.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:30

Because we have responsibilities.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:33

whether we like it or not, at some point.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:39

I had a… it took me a long time

[Chris Nero] 19:05:41

to get to that… that state of mind.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:44

And so…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:46

you know, I've evolved, if you want to say, maybe a crusade mentality.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:54

You know, maybe my son Jason was right, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:05:59

You know, we're… we're turning into superheroes of some sort.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:05

I maybe is true.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:07

But…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:09

get back to this. So, um, you're gonna sign as…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:14

you know, your name.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:16

Put a period at the end of your name?

[Chris Nero] 19:06:18

And then TTEE is your trustee, and the date.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:22

Okay, any questions on the 1096?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:25

Yeah, and…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:27

I… go ahead, I'm sorry.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:29

Oh, great, Rena, you can go first.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:33

Marina?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:33

Um, here, the 1099 OID check mark right here have to be checked.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:39

Yes, one.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:40

you're gonna put number 3, total of number of items, 1, and then you're gonna check…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:46

the 1099-OID at the bottom.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:50

Fifth box, bottom.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:50

Yeah, because, Chris, the…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:52

Because, um, the 1096 is really a summary. It's like a… I always think of the 1096 as a cover page.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:59

like, a summary sheet.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:01

So, just so people understand, this is not a, like, a separate…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:03

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:07

forum really executing much. It's a summary.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:11

Um, I always looked… I always thought of it as a cover sheet, like a fax cover sheet, almost. Um, you can make many analogies.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:17

But on this, um, on this form, that's where we're including the dashes in the social.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:23

Right, but if you… if you look at it,

[Chris Nero] 19:07:27

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:07:29

It's like a summary judgment.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:32

It's a transmittal.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:34

And it's an information.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:34

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:38

for the returns.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:41

So, Warren is an information, an information…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:46

is describing a…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:49

negotiable instrument.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:51

And the returns are, like, you know, think about, like, a…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:55

You know, like a store or whatever, you got returns coming to you.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:01

So, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:04

Yeah, you could look at it…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:06

you know, I kind of look at it like the underwriter page, where it's all here.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:11

It's tucked in, it's the first page, it's going in, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:15

And then everything is there afterwards.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:17

Okay. All right, so we got…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:08:19

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:21

Any more questions on 1096?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:23

I have…

[damone johnson] 19:08:23

Oh, yeah, Chris, uh…

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:25

I'm sorry.

[damone johnson] 19:08:25

Go ahead, is that Kim? Go ahead, I know you've been waiting.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:28

No worries. So, on number 3, I'm just confirming, total number of forms is going to be 1.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:33

Yes.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:36

I'm sorry.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:08:37

Yeah, but… but Kimberly, why is that?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:41

Because you're submitting 1096 as the form. That's the form in itself. That's one form.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:08:46

No. No. You're summarizing the OID.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:51

Correct.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:08:51

you're basically reporting the 1096 OID, which is what we haven't gone over yet.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:08:56

Right, and I checked off that box, that's correct, right?

[Chris Nero] 19:08:59

Yes, yeah, the box is checked, and then it's… and then it's one form.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:09:03

Okay, got it. Thank you.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:05

Yep. Uh, Damon?

[damone johnson] 19:09:07

Uh, yeah, my question was, the, um, the address, uh, sending it to, uh, for myself, it says here, California, which is on page 2.

[damone johnson] 19:09:14

Um, it has an Ogden…

[damone johnson] 19:09:16

Utah address, but it's different.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:18

Uh-huh.

[damone johnson] 19:09:19

Um, that's what we're sending it to, so it's gonna be two separate mailings, like the 1099 and…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:24

No.

[damone johnson] 19:09:24

The 1096?

[Chris Nero] 19:09:26

It's all going in the package.

[damone johnson] 19:09:29

They both go in the pack, okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:31

all going in the same packaging.

[damone johnson] 19:09:34

So I was kind of reading the trans meaning to…

[damone johnson] 19:09:37

The IRS, um, just below that, uh,

[damone johnson] 19:09:42

the Ogden, um…

[damone johnson] 19:09:45

On page 2, the Ogden address.

[damone johnson] 19:09:49

Kind of like saying, just to keep it separate.

[damone johnson] 19:09:53

I think if I'm reading it right.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:59

It says, send the information.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:02

And the information…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:04

on the 1096,

[Chris Nero] 19:10:08

is, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:10

the Ogden.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:18

What do you… what do you… what do you… what do you… are you, are you saying that…

[damone johnson] 19:10:18

Okay, so we sent them both.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:24

You're saying where it says where to file?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:27

that it's telling you either Austin…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:34

Or… Kansas?

[damone johnson] 19:10:34

Yeah, Austin, Kansas, and then the next page?

[damone johnson] 19:10:37

It goes to, uh, Ogden, Utah.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:38

Uh-huh.

[damone johnson] 19:10:40

And then the second paragraph after that, uh, transmitting to the IRS section.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:40

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:46

Oh, yeah, if you're gonna transmit, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:52

Um, I mean, transmittals, like, if you're gonna do it online or whatnot, I mean… I mean, I would… trans… yeah, if you're going to transmit, uh, through the mail,

[damone johnson] 19:10:55

Oh.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:00

Uh, it's like a non-legal tender type of thing, okay?

[Chris Nero] 19:11:04

Um, but I would just, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:08

I would just go with Ogden, because that's where I know it worked.

[damone johnson] 19:11:11

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:15

I mean, Kansas… Kansas City's okay to go, but you're… you know, the Kansas City is more for…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:16

Right, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:22

Uh, when I'm doing, like, you know, other…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:25

discharges when I put the, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:28

the UCC's on there.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:31

Uh, I just have a question, because I see it's a different state.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:35

that either paints which state you are from, that you have to send it to.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:41

Would that have anything to do? Like, I know you say it's working with… for you, but it says

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:46

Arizona, so you should be okay on the Austin, Texas.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:51

But if anybody else is, like, I know luck is on Nebraska.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:55

or Nevada, I'm not sure, I can't recall right now, but it should be probably Kansas City for him.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:12:02

Right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:03

But Chris isn't send in his Austin, Texas.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:12:06

Right, because he's in Arizona, and that's part of the Austin Testus for him.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:12:12

Just like…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:12

No, I know, but, uh, go to Ogden.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:12

He's not sending it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:17

Yeah, next page.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:19

Okay, so…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:26

I know I said… I know I sent it to Ogden,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:26

I don't think that's the address, though, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:32

for a reason.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:12:34

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:35

Because…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:37

I felt like it was foreign.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:42

And then…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:45

You see how it says District of Columbia, and I thought, well…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:50

District of Columbia's foreign, too.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:54

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:57

I… I will tell you…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:00

that…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:06

you know, for me, I'm… I have a different type of…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:11

mindset.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:14

And I'm not saying I'm…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:17

always right, either.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:20

but of… maybe, you know, it doesn't matter.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:28

But I don't think it would hurt either, like, if, you know, if, like Raina said, if you're from…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:34

you know, if you're from a different state,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:38

Um, then, you know, mail it. I think all of them are, honestly,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:42

All of them that we're seeing here, um,

[Chris Nero] 19:13:46

divine and Keaton talked about all of them. That's why I go Kansas City on the top.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:51

or Austin, Texas, so…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:53

I mean, look…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:55

we're all… we're all here discussing…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:01

um, a formula,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:03

And I'm not gonna say that I'm, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:06

Because I'm right, because I, you know, what if I send it to Austin?

[Chris Nero] 19:14:10

And I would have got the same results.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:13

Of course, you know, and I have before,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:16

to Kansas.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:18

Um, so my thoughts are, guys, is look,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:24

I'm not the gospel.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:30

you know, hindsight,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:32

I would say send it to…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:35

the area that it tells you to send it to.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:41

Matt, because here's the thing.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:43

I've sent stuff before,

[Chris Nero] 19:14:45

And then they… they correct me. I've showed you that.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:51

So, I wouldn't fear, like, oh, I'm doing it wrong, or whatever, you know? I don't think that's the case. I've showed you guys where I got that.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:59

I don't know if you guys remember that. I said, oh, you put the wrong this, or wrong that, and then they correct it.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:06

So, let's, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:10

Let's go with whatever you guys are from, you know, stick with that formula.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:15

Looking at mine and Pennsylvania, it's not on here.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:18

It's on Ogden.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:20

Okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:21

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:21

Yeah, Jose is in here, Kim, right there. Says Pennsylvania.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:26

So year would be Ogden, and then of your… in a different state, uh, like California is Ogden.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:34

Yes.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:35

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:38

So my… my suggestion…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:43

is I would go with whatever era you're from.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:47

Okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:15:48

So, Ibara, you will be in Alston, Texas, because you're in Georgia, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:55

I'm not saying anything to Texas.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:58

That's terrible.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:01

Why do you want me to go to Texas, Raina?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:06

Jason… Jason… Jason… Jason… Jason's moving to Alaska, so he'll be using Kansas.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:06

If you want to, you don't have to.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:12

Anyways…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:12

It's up to you.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:14

How'd you know that?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:15

Hey, I hear… I hear things, man.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:18

Um,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:18

I want to eat salmon all day, that's it.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:20

Yeah, salmon, not steak.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:22

So, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:24

So, look, guys…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:27

I'm not here to create drones.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:32

You have to, you know, have some discernment.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:36

Uh, if… if… if I had…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:39

a group, like I would have had back then, I… who knows, I would have probably said, yeah, I know, you right, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:46

you know, the thing is, is that…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:48

you're gonna get… if something's wrong, they're gonna tell you.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:52

Because I've… I've showed you.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:54

I put… back in the day when I was doing the CAV instead of the EIN, and they sent it back, then I had my estate instead of my trust.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:01

they send it back, and they tell you, we corrected it.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:06

You remember when I showed you that, Ivaro?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:09

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:11

We corrected it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:11

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:12

for you.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:15

So, I think, you know, look,

[Chris Nero] 19:17:19

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:17:21

I think it's a good thing that we're reading. Everybody's reading.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:29

So I would stick with, you know, whatever area you're in, that's where I would set it to.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:34

After, you know, this consideration.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:37

Okay, um, any other questions?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:44

No, okay, so we're moving to the 1099-OID, let me pull that up.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:14

Okay, so…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:20

So it's basically your name at the top,

[Chris Nero] 19:18:25

Because the pairs…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:27

name.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:33

Okay?

[Chris Nero] 19:18:38

your address,

[Chris Nero] 19:18:40

And then the payers… the payers 10 is the social.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:47

Chris, I have a question on that before you move on on the same form.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:51

So, the name…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:54

Starting off will be…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:56

The same way we have it as…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:58

Like, in the IRS, right? The file in the IRS, the same?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:19:04

They have to match, correct?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:19:06

And also, the Social Security is with dashes, correct?

[Chris Nero] 19:19:12

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:14

So, you know, when you, like, on…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:18

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:21

The 1041 icon, mine, I left TTEE out. That's…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:25

Just something I forgot, so… but…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:27

You know, you can put who you are, you know, keep it consistent.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:31

Everything is consistent, so if it's… if it's, like, mine's Chris Em. Nero, T-T-E-E.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:38

then you're going to go to the Payers 10, that's your social.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:41

And then your bank's EIN.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:45

Uh, then, like, mine's PNC Bank, the address…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:50

Um, the account of your bank at the bottom.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:56

Uh, the original issued discount for this… for the year is going to be for 2024. Remember, we've had this conversation, it's…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:03

not the year you're in, but prior, okay?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:08

I think most of us did 23.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:12

Right, but for what we're doing right now.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:15

Because this isn't amended.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:21

Oh.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:22

You can amend as many as you can, as many as you want.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:22

wait a second…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:27

There's as many as you want.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:29

Right, no, I get that part.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:33

Calendar years 2024. Remember, you have…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:34

But aren't we…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:37

$10 million in there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:39

Yeah, but we… but we created it in 23, so that doesn't matter?

[Chris Nero] 19:20:40

All right.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:42

Yeah, I know, it doesn't matter. You're amending this now.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:47

Got it.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:48

Same amount. Even if you didn't get the other mount, this is what you're getting out of there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:54

Got it.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:54

So, uh, calendar year, you're right in 2024.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:59

Uh, number 4 is $250,000.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:03

And then number 7 is pretty simple, I've showed you this before.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:07

And the pa- well, not every… not all of you, but some.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:10

Uh, that just real simple. You getting credits from your PNC bank.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:15

And that's your account number, and then…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:18

You're paying it to the United States Department of Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:22

Do you know who the United States Department of Treasury is?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:26

You.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:27

Your trust.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:29

That's right.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:32

number that you put on the sample you sent us. One number is…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:37

What number is that? What's…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:37

That's your… that's, like, my… my PNC bank account number.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:40

Oh, the account number, okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:44

And then the same thing at the bottom.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:44

Same as the…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:47

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:49

And that's it, guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:52

And you see…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:55

someone like me, who's always looking for more danger, or more…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:00

substance…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:02

when things can be so simple,

[Chris Nero] 19:22:05

I think I would come up with a line that would say, see how simple life can be.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:15

And then, just…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:18

You know? Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:21

Get it done.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:25

And send it with the 3811, so you know they got signed for, and that's it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:32

Chris, I do have one more question, and in general about the package, that will go with

[Chris Nero] 19:22:34

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:39

as, like, we spoke last time, last meeting,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:41

With the 56 and the 56F.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:41

Mm-hmm.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:45

Together?

[Chris Nero] 19:22:45

Yes. Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:47

I do have one question on regard to that. Can we also send…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:52

The 56 with the 2848?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:55

Do you recommend that?

[Chris Nero] 19:22:56

I would… I would send the 56, the 56F, and the 2848.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:01

Perfect, thank you.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:04

And I'll tell you why.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:07

I believe you gotta do that for every single one.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:13

there's just something about…

[Chris Nero] 19:23:17

what I learned in real estate.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:21

is it's a… they used to be, like, a… there used to be an underwriter statement that when you're doing FHA,

[Chris Nero] 19:23:27

I mean, look, man, it's FHA!

[Chris Nero] 19:23:30

They have a list of things that have to be done, and if you miss one, it's not going to go through.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:35

It's just the way the system is, they would say.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:39

And it was so redundant. It was like, man, this is…

[Chris Nero] 19:23:42

But we love the computer underwriter.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:46

Because as long as you would just do everything that was on that list,

[Chris Nero] 19:23:51

No problem. Computer underwritten.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:58

You only have problems when you had to have, like, you know, a manual, a man or a woman underwriter.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:05

Because then they would start asking questions.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:09

And that's why back in the day, when they had the no income, no assets,

[Chris Nero] 19:24:14

the NINAs, or the stated loan, do was the same thing.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:19

So we would keep everything underwritten

[Chris Nero] 19:24:23

um, uh, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:26

computer underwriting.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:28

And never go past $500,000.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:32

And so, the point I'm trying to make of the similarities is that

[Chris Nero] 19:24:35

Don't change the package.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:40

Every one of these, every single time you go in there is a beautiful thing, because now…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:45

the redundancy of who you are is going through the system, like,

[Chris Nero] 19:24:50

blood through the veins of the system.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:56

Look, all you need to do is get one right now.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:00

And then just, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:03

Breathe.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:05

And then if you want to, you know, get a house or whatever,

[Chris Nero] 19:25:10

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:25:12

I mean, I… the more and more I grow in life, I sound more and more like my grandfather,

[Chris Nero] 19:25:18

My grandmother.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:20

more and more…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:23

reserved and…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:24

Um, conservative…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:27

And the more and more I speak, I hear…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:30

some of the gurus that I, you know, have heard, like Divine,

[Chris Nero] 19:25:36

or Keaton, or, you know, you gotta be responsible.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:41

If you need a house? What do you used to say? You gotta listen.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:45

He's like, you need an house? Get a house! You need a car? Get a car, but stop being ridiculous!

[Chris Nero] 19:25:50

Some of you people don't know how to handle…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:52

More than a million dollars. Look at all these people that win the lottery, and they ended up either dead or broke.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:58

He's right.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:03

I didn't invent this.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:06

I'm just grateful.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:09

that I've had…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:11

some…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:16

I've been very, very grateful that I've had some

[Chris Nero] 19:26:18

great results, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:21

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:26:23

But I've been a lot like a lot of other people out here.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:28

searching and going down here, because it's human nature.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:31

I want to go listen to this, I want to go listen to this person. I, I, I mean, I've… I'm

[Chris Nero] 19:26:37

But it's just that I'm hungry so much for…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:41

more information

[Chris Nero] 19:26:44

that I'm constantly checking out this, or this, or this, or that.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:48

And then I'll come back, I've had conversations with other people in here that, you know, I've said, well, this person I don't think is…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:54

You know, this… they're going down the wrong road, or this person's good, or this… I don't think this person's bad, I think…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:00

you know, this, or whatever, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:02

There is always going to be some good people out there that are still… we don't know everything, but that said,

[Chris Nero] 19:27:11

Let me ask you this.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:13

when… when one thing works for you,

[Chris Nero] 19:27:17

Is it okay to be a one-trick pony?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:23

No.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:24

You see, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:25

I think… I think it's okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:29

Because if you're getting results doing one magic trick, and it's working for you,

[Chris Nero] 19:27:35

why not?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:37

Because they can… because magic tricks…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:40

will go away eventually.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:42

Well, look.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:46

Nobody can take away

[Chris Nero] 19:27:49

what you have?

[Chris Nero] 19:27:53

in documentation.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:56

That is for sure.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:59

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:00

system has to work, or it'll break.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:03

It's like a mirror. If this mirror is broken, this mirror is gonna collapse. You got your external, you got your internal.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:12

Just like that… those cartoons where you have, you know, one twin that they didn't know about living in the cold, and another one living in the…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:20

Summer.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:22

They can't coincide together.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:25

It'll break.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:28

And that's why we have to keep balance.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:36

And you have to have the understanding of that.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:41

And, yeah, I mean, you know, at some point you want to create a non-profit, and we start, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:28:46

doing something like that. That's when we get there. But right now, I don't want… I don't want to talk about any of that stuff. I don't… I don't want to…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:53

I really want…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:55

I really wanted to go back to the basics.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:00

And, you know, I… and as a human nature, we always want to…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:06

I was wondering, oh, I need to… I need to do this, I need to do this, I need to show them this, I need to…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:10

And the reality is, guys, is that I haven't really…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:15

you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:29:17

showed you…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:19

how to do one thing all the way to the end.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:23

Because, as I said to many people, I've had,

[Chris Nero] 19:29:26

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:29:30

I've had 100 people.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:32

trying to do so many things for so many people that now…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:36

And I told Kim, I told Raina,

[Chris Nero] 19:29:39

Same thing, it's that I have…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:41

you guys are now doing something…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:45

that we're doing together.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:49

So that you can see

[Chris Nero] 19:29:53

And I told this to Luke so that when we do this, we can learn.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:57

Because…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:59

Do you really want me to be, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:30:03

I'll be there to walk with you and show you and educate and do everything I can, but

[Chris Nero] 19:30:09

At the end of the day, you have to be able to be like, Matt.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:12

I get it.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:18

So I'm hoping this… this is, like, the final… this is the chapter that…

[Chris Nero] 19:30:24

Okay, we did this, we did this, we did that, and now we're here…

[Chris Nero] 19:30:30

Now, let's… let's get it.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:34

I've been saying this for a year.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:39

Each one of you.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:41

has 10 million.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:44

freaking dollars.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:47

You can see it.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:52

you have the forms.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:56

And everybody's still here!

[Chris Nero] 19:30:59

Your bag's heavy, what the hell are you doing?

[Chris Nero] 19:31:02

What the hell are you doing, Luke? You got $10 million in here! What the heck?

[Chris Nero] 19:31:09

Kim, Reyna, you get $10 million!

[Chris Nero] 19:31:12

Everybody! Jim!

[Chris Nero] 19:31:15

Jason.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:19

You have nothing to fear, you already got it.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:22

You got everything that you need.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:26

And now you have to bring it home.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:31

from the internal.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:35

to the external.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:40

Because you are your brother's or your sister's keeper.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:47

Your brother and your sister cannot do anything.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:52

They are incapacitated.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:58

and all your life.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:00

You've been taken care of.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:04

your twin brother, or your twin sister.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:08

killing yourself.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:11

mentally, emotionally, spiritually.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:14

And I was just having this conversation with Kim when I was… my mother passed away, or my father.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:19

I was always leave there, mentally, emotionally, spiritually drained.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:25

Not complaining, but just a fact.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:29

And because of that,

[Chris Nero] 19:32:33

Do we not?

[Chris Nero] 19:32:37

as the trustee.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:42

Or, as the brother, the bloodline?

[Chris Nero] 19:32:45

We have the right to bring that

[Chris Nero] 19:32:49

credits back.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:51

Because we're doing…

[Chris Nero] 19:32:54

value of energy.

[Chris Nero] 19:32:58

And we… we are not slaves.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:04

And that's what you guys are doing. I hope you… I'm trying to… I'm trying to give you the…

[Chris Nero] 19:33:09

the full… so that your mind can wrap around that, so that you're not like, oh, you know, this is nothing illegal,

[Chris Nero] 19:33:18

There's nothing unlawful. It's deserving!

[Chris Nero] 19:33:23

Matter of fact, if you don't do it, you're breaking the law of our Creator.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:31

Because you're not balancing the books.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:38

you know, Jesus' name wasn't really Jesus, but let's just go with it. And his last name was in Christ, but they called him the Christ, the Christ

[Chris Nero] 19:33:46

is a master.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:48

of knowledge, of unforeseen knowledge.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:53

And he said, forgive them.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:57

Forgive them of their debts.

[Chris Nero] 19:33:59

For they not know what they do.

[Chris Nero] 19:34:06

And that's what we're doing. We're forgiving…

[Chris Nero] 19:34:09

The debts of these…

[Chris Nero] 19:34:12

entities, because they don't know what they do.

[Chris Nero] 19:34:17

And you… everybody out there, we… we gotta help the government, the government needs to do this, and they need to do that. No, you need to do it!

[Chris Nero] 19:34:24

I want the… I want… I want the private ledgers! How the hell are you gonna get the private ledgers from the public?

[Chris Nero] 19:34:31

Actors!

[Chris Nero] 19:34:33

We're the private ledger.

[Chris Nero] 19:34:39

So, um, I know Raina put together, um,

[Chris Nero] 19:34:43

something that has to do with the utilities, and we're going to go over it

[Chris Nero] 19:34:47

Maybe we can have an early meeting, um,

[Chris Nero] 19:34:51

you know, if you guys want to do that sooner, and, you know, start having maybe two meetings, it's up to you guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:34:59

Um, well, if you want to continue with the meetings like we do, that's fine.

[Chris Nero] 19:35:03

Uh, we'll discuss that next time. I wanted to put… I pointed to end this with a period of…

[Chris Nero] 19:35:12

solidifying…

[Chris Nero] 19:35:13

what this is. And, you know, lots of times, you know, like,

[Chris Nero] 19:35:17

for me, you know, and I brought… I think I…

[Chris Nero] 19:35:20

Back in the early days, when I used to speak with Jason Ellisbeig.

[Chris Nero] 19:35:24

You know, I gotta put something together brilliant.

[Chris Nero] 19:35:26

something together. What am I going to talk about?

[Chris Nero] 19:35:28

And, you know, sometimes less is more.

[Chris Nero] 19:35:33

And we have egos, like, I want to… I wanna… I wanna… I wanna… I wanna show this, I wanna show that, I wanna show this.

[Chris Nero] 19:35:41

And I was only thinking about… you can only… sometimes you can only think about yourself.

[Chris Nero] 19:35:45

It's nothing to do with what you were doing was bad,

[Chris Nero] 19:35:49

for militias or anything, it's just that…

[Chris Nero] 19:35:53

We want to bring something brilliant!

[Chris Nero] 19:35:57

Instead of bringing something that is so simple.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:02

that we miss it.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:04

And then we know we go back in hindsight, oh, that was 2020.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:09

So, you know, the thing is, is that here's where we're at.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:13

This is all we got left.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:15

Each one of you know

[Chris Nero] 19:36:19

If you don't know that you have what you have in there,

[Chris Nero] 19:36:25

then you're not looking at your Willy Wonka ticket.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:30

Because you have it.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:33

Now, Nicole, are you the only one that's left that needs to get it?

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:36:38

The packet…

[Chris Nero] 19:36:39

Yes.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:36:40

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:42

Okay. Are you working with anyone, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:36:46

Jason, are you helping her?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:36:50

Uh, helped her with a lot of stuff last week. What are we working on now, Nicole?

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:36:55

It's the outgoing packet.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:36:57

Where you have to put your…

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:36:59

credentials and all that stuff.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:02

No, no, no, what I… that too, but I'm talking about…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:03

Oh.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:05

Do you have your, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:37:09

your trust, and…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:11

Yeah. Yeah, that's what we were working on.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:11

1099…

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:37:11

Yeah. Yeah, I got my new trust account yesterday.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:37:15

So, I have to do the 1099 amended.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:37:19

Again, well, not again, just do it.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:22

Yeah, just do it. Just do the A and the B's, and then you should get it, you know, back, and then, you know, you're in the game, and then let's just, you know, get it done, get, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:37:32

Everybody else here, you have green lights to go once you get your 1099 heart… your, uh…

[Chris Nero] 19:37:39

You know, I want to tell you something a little funny, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:37:42

I went back in there to order some more 1099s, and I was ordering, like, a hundred.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:47

And I noticed they cut everything down to 10, and Jason said, yup.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:52

Not my Jason said, yup.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:54

They did that because of you.

[Chris Nero] 19:37:56

Because I said, right, right, it's always…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:57

Oh, gosh.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:37:59

But is it… is it…

[Chris Nero] 19:38:00

It's always me.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:38:02

Is it 10 by day, or…?

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:38:04

just overall 10.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:05

each order.

[Chris Nero] 19:38:05

I don't know, I mean, I have a lot of LLCs, so I just go in there now, and I just order more, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:38:13

you know, I… yeah, my philosophy was, like, if anything ever happens in the system, you can

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:14

each order.

[Chris Nero] 19:38:19

you know, that's money, you know.

[Chris Nero] 19:38:21

It's money.