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Chris Meeting-October 19 2025

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[Chris Nero] 18:05:45

I don't know, Jason, who we're missing on here. I know that, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:05:50

You got Luke here. I know who's here. I'm just… I'm just saying…

[Chris Nero] 18:05:57

I think… James is not gonna be here, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:02

James just where?

[Chris Nero] 18:06:05

Marina? What do you say was that?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:06:07

Uh, James says he's not going to be able to make it today, but he will see the recording.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:12

What about Kim? Kim.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:06:15

Kim, I know she's out of town, so, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:18

Oh, yeah, she's in Colombia. Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:22

Okay, and then, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:27

Well,

[Chris Nero] 18:06:36

I just want to know so we don't have to wait.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:06:39

Nicole, I believe, went missing.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:42

Okay. All right, so here, what we're going to do is we're going to move on, and for the people that want to listen, can listen on.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:53

So, hold on…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:03

You… over here, do you want to see yourself? You're right there.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:12

Okay, guys, uh, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:16

This meeting is…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:18

you know, to contain

[Chris Nero] 18:07:20

go back to the credentials.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:24

I'm not going to spend too much time on it, but I know that Luke…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:30

Luke, you got yours, brother?

[luke ] 18:07:34

Hey, Chris, yep, I'm here.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:37

Luke, you got yours done?

[luke ] 18:07:39

Yes,

[Chris Nero] 18:07:40

Okay, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:43

You borrow… when are you gonna get yours out?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:07:48

So, Bar is not here, but Thomas.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:50

Tom, what the hell, Tom? Why are you humming?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:07:54

It's a good day.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:57

Okay, but when are you gonna get yours out? How can… what are we gonna do to help you? What can we do?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:08:04

Um, I gotta… I gotta get all these…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:08:07

fucking court cases figured out.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:09

I know, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:11

That's… let's not talk about the court cases.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:15

When will you get your package out? When do you… what can we do to help you?

[Chris Nero] 18:08:19

We can… we can get, like, one thing done. What do you need?

[Chris Nero] 18:08:23

One thing out of the package.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:08:26

Well, my private bounty hunter's almost done.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:31

Right, but what do we need to do to help you get out? You need me to mail it out for you? What do you need?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:08:38

I don't think I need any assistance in that area yet.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:42

I know, but I want to help. I want to know what we can do to help you out, and I'm serious.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:08:49

I know it. Maybe someone… I need some more time in the day.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:49

Ernest.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:54

Okay, Damon, uh, did…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:56

Tom, I'll get back to you. Damon, did you already got yours out, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:08:59

Thanks, Tom.

[damone johnson] 18:09:02

Uh, no, um…

[damone johnson] 18:09:03

I've still got a little bit to do.

[damone johnson] 18:09:06

But, uh…

[damone johnson] 18:09:08

I believe I just had to, like, get everything. Did you guys, like, mass email it out, or…?

[damone johnson] 18:09:14

Or… or, like, certify mail it out to everybody.

[Chris Nero] 18:09:19

Are you talking about the package?

[damone johnson] 18:09:21

Yeah, the package.

[Chris Nero] 18:09:23

Well, the package that goes to the treasurer goes out registered.

[damone johnson] 18:09:27

Okay, that one goes out-registered, and then…

[damone johnson] 18:09:30

Um, how about all the other, um…

[damone johnson] 18:09:35

I guess the companies or whatever like that, you know, all, like, 800 of them. Did you just mass… remember… remember how you were…

[Chris Nero] 18:09:41

Yeah, it's just math.

[Chris Nero] 18:09:43

Everything that's going to go inside there's gonna get charged back. That… that…

[Chris Nero] 18:09:49

That birth certificate has all your debt.

[damone johnson] 18:09:52

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:09:53

So, when you're going in there, you're telling them to charge

[Chris Nero] 18:09:56

back everything and charge off.

[damone johnson] 18:10:00

Yeah, I got my, uh…

[damone johnson] 18:10:03

Like, I'm a birth certificate, I got all that, uh, ready to go.

[damone johnson] 18:10:07

Um… I think I just got a couple more things.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:11

Okay, so Luke…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:14

Luke, uh, we did one with Raina for Kim. I want you…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:18

look to take a look at Damon's package.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:22

And compare it with your package.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:25

Because your package is the same as mine, and Raina, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:30

Uh, Kimberly should have hers out, uh, probably next week. Raina, what do you think?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:10:36

I think so, too. We're just waiting, um, on her foreign grantor.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:41

or trust.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:10:42

Um, yeah, an ID, that's…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:10:44

we're having a little issue on the waiting. For some reason, every time we've been calling, they just…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:10:50

They just keep… Yes, yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:50

No, they're gonna mail it right now. Yeah, they won't talk to her.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:10:53

That's why we're waiting.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:54

Yeah, they won't talk to her about that EIN.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:10:57

Right, that's the only thing she's waiting on to have everything else ready to go.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:03

Raina, when you did it on the phone, did you ask them for the EIN? They wouldn't give it to you?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:11:07

they gave it to me right away, yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:10

No, I'm talking about for Kimberly.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:11:13

Oh, for Kim, that says that we had it faxed over, we defox it over, but then… and then they told us that we have to call back

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:11:21

In about 4 days, to check on the application that they have to put it in the system and all this stuff. We called, uh, 4 days later,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:11:29

And then they said she… they need another week or so, and that she's gonna have something on the mail.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:35

Okay, and…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:11:36

Malay dinaprovide with the number.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:40

Okay, all right, so I might have to step in at some point if we don't get it.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:44

All right, so we have, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:11:48

Damon, we should shoot for yours to go out in the next 7 to 10 days. Would you agree with that?

[damone johnson] 18:11:57

Uh, yeah, that'd be correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:02

Luke…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:02

Can you, uh, take…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:05

some time to have…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:07

the hit, uh, take a look at Damon's package.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:10

and see that it matches everything.

[luke ] 18:12:15

Yep, I'll connect with him.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:17

Okay, now I'm gonna get…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:19

straight to the point here, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:22

Right now, we're doing things that… there's a lot of, uh… I don't want to say, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:29

controversy, because we don't have any controversy. What we're doing is we're settling and closing and balancing the books.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:35

Bottom line, at this point.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:38

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:41

For those of you who aren't aware, uh,

[Chris Nero] 18:12:45

Right now, we're in the United States District Court for RENA.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:50

For her… for her vehicle?

[Chris Nero] 18:12:53

Uh, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:54

we're about to do some…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:58

Great, great accomplishments.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:00

Uh, to get some remedy. And for those that…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:03

are like me, I always say, well, we'll see when…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:07

when we get it done, the proof's in the pudding.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:09

So, I'm… I'm pretty confident that we'll bring some nice

[Chris Nero] 18:13:14

Uh, putting back.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:16

Uh, we also have Raina's Home, right, Raina?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:13:21

That's correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:24

And I'm helping Raina,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:27

Because we did a bill of exchange, it's a very special bill of exchange, it's…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:32

used with the correct language for settlement enclosure and extinguishment.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:37

Uh, the bill of exchange has been sent in, where we're maybe one letter away from

[Chris Nero] 18:13:42

Doing a certificate of dishonor, then we'll take them into the United States District Court.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:48

And we'll, we'll, uh, we'll take them down inside there. We're…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:51

the way we start off with this is a…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:56

We do a draft, it's a letter.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:59

for, um, debt validation?

[Chris Nero] 18:14:04

And they have to validate that debt.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:08

And I don't want to make, you know, I'm not… I don't want to be those guys that are on there that are just trying to tell people fanciful language. I mean, it's real simple.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:17

if somebody owes me debt,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:20

or I owe somebody debt,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:23

And I ask, or they ask,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:27

I'm not gonna get angry about it, I'm gonna say, yeah, I loaned you the money here on this and this date.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:33

I pulled it out from my account, here it is.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:37

And, uh, if I don't do it, then there's probably something nefarious.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:43

Uh, maybe…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:45

Uh, I was a very, very…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:50

I was a professional pirate.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:54

And maybe…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:57

you came and you signed a piece of paper,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:00

And that piece of paper had value.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:05

And then I was a sophisticated pirate.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:09

And I didn't disclose to you…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:11

that I was going to take that piece of paper,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:15

And I was gonna go…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:18

and assign it.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:20

And then I was gonna go get the money,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:23

from the Federal Reserve window,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:26

And I was gonna put it on my books as an asset,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:30

But, you know, I forgot to tell you,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:35

then I'm gonna loan you your money back.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:37

I'm going to put it on my books as a liability.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:44

What do you guys think about that?

[Chris Nero] 18:15:47

kind of sophisticated pirate do you think I am?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:15:54

Tasks, all over.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:56

I know, but if you knew…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:58

Any of you here,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:00

What I just told you that happened.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:05

Would you do it?

[Chris Nero] 18:16:13

Would you let somebody loan you your money back?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:16:15

No.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:17

here's the ultimate insult with interest.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:22

Because that's what happened, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:25

your credit cards, your cars, your homes…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:29

Banks don't loan money, they don't have reserves.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:32

Banks or holding company. They're only named by banks, by the name.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:38

They're charters.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:41

Every time you deposit money into that bank, if it's not a non-interest…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:46

buried account, uh, account.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:48

then you are…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:51

giving your money to them.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:52

to that bank. That…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:55

that industry called a bank, but only a bank by name.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:00

Because it's a general deposit.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:04

It's just in general, you're giving it to them, and they're loaning it out,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:09

And they're charging you.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:16

So,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:17:16

Some might argue, how do we get it?

[Chris Nero] 18:17:19

What's that?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:17:21

Well, some might argue how are we supposed to get our credit?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:17:25

that's out there. How do we… how much…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:27

Well, you…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:29

The one of the things that you've got to take out of your vocabulary is argue.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:33

Only debtors are you?

[Chris Nero] 18:17:37

Creditors don't argue.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:38

We either honor,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:42

Or we conditionally accept.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:44

In some cases,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:17:45

Well, if I'm a creditor, then how do we get the credit?

[Chris Nero] 18:17:49

Well, when you go inside there, and they… and they… and they trick you, Jason…

[Chris Nero] 18:17:53

Because you don't know any better.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:55

And you sit there and you take it.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:57

Rather than looking at them and asking them to do a debt validation.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:03

And then, when you send a notice of liability for that debt validation that has to do with their laws,

[Chris Nero] 18:18:10

And once you start that debt validation, everything's frozen.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:13

They can't move forward.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:15

But they will, because

[Chris Nero] 18:18:17

They have computers.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:19

Those artificial intelligence…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:24

is what's going to be their downfall.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:26

and treble damages.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:29

Three times, 10 times.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:31

That's why if you go down and you pull, and you look at all the lawsuits that Experian…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:37

and TransUnion and Equifax has.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:39

Those people are in the know.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:42

And they're getting in the hundreds of millions.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:45

Don't believe me? Check it out yourself.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:49

Why? Because when you conditionally accept

[Chris Nero] 18:18:54

a court case.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:56

It's like checkers.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:58

I make a move, and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:00

The other guy on the other side has to make a move.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:03

But if that other guy goes off and says, I'm gonna go make a sandwich, and I'll be back,

[Chris Nero] 18:19:08

And you're like, gee, and you're like, okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:11

And then he comes back, and he brings you a sandwich.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:16

And he doesn't make a move.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:18

And you're eating your sandwich with him because he brought you another sandwich, like a letter.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:25

a letter sandwich, and then you…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:26

made a move. You just lost.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:29

Because it was not your move, it was his move.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:33

So, he brings you a sandwich, you're gonna say, I conditionally accept that beautiful love

[Chris Nero] 18:19:40

sandwich that you gave me,

[Chris Nero] 18:19:43

On proof of claim that you did not make a move.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:46

You did not answer my questions. You did not rebut USC 1692B.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:51

You did not…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:53

uh, show me the note. You did not!

[Chris Nero] 18:19:56

Uh, give me the answers, whatever it was, 1 through 10.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:01

You see everything in the courts is the same thing as under the Lexmarkuth authority, the law merchant.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:09

And they want you to argue. That's why you have summary judgment, because it's a Sumerian law.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:16

Like the law merchant.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:18

And the judge is ruling based on

[Chris Nero] 18:20:22

people's ignorance.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:24

Because they're arguing.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:26

Even when you get an appeal, you don't want to argue it.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:29

I conditionally accept this appeal that I am putting an end to the Appellate Board.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:34

Based on that this wasn't answered, and they're all negative averments about proof of claim that I did not!

[Chris Nero] 18:20:41

Question this. I did not ask for an oath of office. I did not receive this.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:48

Because that's the game.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:53

And it's the same thing with a car.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:56

Or a house.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:57

The law states…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:59

The device send non-legal tender. Now, non-legal tender is not legal tender. Legal tender…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:05

is the only way you could really discharge anything. It's fiat. It's from the Federal Reserve.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:13

Non-legal tender is an extinguisher of debt and settlement and closure.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:18

And all other additional information that I've showed people that have done bills of exchanges for.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:25

And those are the law.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:28

So, when I send one out like I did for this house over here on… that I… it's a condo.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:35

Uh, for $200,000, or whatever it might be.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:38

And I do a bill of exchange, and that company doesn't… you know, or sending me something, but in this, my case, nobody's responded.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:46

So I'm about to send out the final certificate of dishonor. I've already done a UCC1.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:50

A non-UCC one?

[Chris Nero] 18:21:54

I've already recorded everything at the Canada Recorder's Office, and I'm about to run an ad, and I'm gonna…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:58

That… for all purposes, I own that property. There's nothing that anybody can tell me.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:04

Because the legal fiction is not the private.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:09

When you pass a house and you see a mortgage company, and they put a letter out there, they don't own that company.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:14

that… that house?

[Chris Nero] 18:22:16

You ever see a vacant house, and they have papers out there from the…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:20

call this number, HUD, and this and that.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:24

It's common law.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:27

I can go out there and take any house.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:31

If it's not in a UCC one.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:36

But I was a bad guy.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:38

But I stick with the auctions and the REOs and foreclosures.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:44

And you gotta send out the three letters.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:47

And then the certificate of dishonor with 3…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:50

notaries.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:52

And then you run a small ad in the newspaper.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:55

How the hell do you think when they can't get to you, and they're trying to get you out of a house,

[Chris Nero] 18:23:00

They go and they tell the judge they won't take the service, we don't know, they can't take the… then the… we're gonna run an ad in the newspaper.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:09

I see it all the time. I have them right here.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:13

So you run an ad in the newspaper that you did this, you did this, you did this, and now you are…

[Chris Nero] 18:23:18

The owner!

[Chris Nero] 18:23:22

You know, back in the day when the dukes used to come out, they used to travel all over the place, and they would declare themselves a duke.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:29

of some little town, and then they would go out there and try to find a duchess to marry that had money.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:35

And they could declare themselves a duke.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:39

by common law.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:44

Michael Ingalls from Little House on the Prairie drove in with his family, put some steaks out there.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:48

And that was his property. If he could keep it.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:54

Johnny Appleseed. You think Johnny Appleseed was just planting apples?

[Chris Nero] 18:23:59

the apple seeds, because he wanted to have a whole bunch of apples?

[Chris Nero] 18:24:03

He planted those seeds because he was taking dominion over them.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:07

claims.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:12

Same thing with the Christ.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:14

When he was on the mountain.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:17

And, you know, Satan said, I give you all of this!

[Chris Nero] 18:24:22

It's all yours. All you gotta do is bow to me.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:25

And he told him, stand behind me.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:27

Because you're… you're in junior position, buddy.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:31

I really own all this.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:34

You're behind me. Second position, you're nothing.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:40

And private will always beat the public.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:43

The problem is, is that people are uneducated, and it's, like, it says,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:47

And the good book, it says, my people

[Chris Nero] 18:24:50

My children suffer for lack of knowledge.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:56

And I get it. Everybody's busy.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:01

We're busy being enslaved.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:03

I'm not saying that to incite

[Chris Nero] 18:25:07

I'm saying it because it's the truth.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:10

You know, I gotta make time.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:13

Like, I gotta go work out later on today.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:16

And I don't feel like working out, because I got so much crap I gotta do.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:22

And I know a lot of you are going, well, that… what does that have to do with us doing our jobs? It just means that I gotta take care of my health, too.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:29

And I gotta make time.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:31

Because all I do is all this paperwork,

[Chris Nero] 18:25:35

All over the place, so all you got is paperwork right here.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:38

And I wake up in the morning, and all there is is paper, but, you know, maybe that's not…

[Chris Nero] 18:25:42

you know, to me,

[Chris Nero] 18:25:45

It's my life.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:51

And so, if you… I'm gonna go… I told you this this morning, uh, uh,

[Chris Nero] 18:25:57

Tom, aka Ibara.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:59

This morning. I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna go… I'm just gonna… I'm gonna go to the credit union, I'm gonna go…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:06

And buy a $100,000 car, I don't know what it is yet, but I'm gonna do it.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:12

Just to show you,

[Chris Nero] 18:26:16

that I can.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:19

You see, when you have knowledge,

[Chris Nero] 18:26:22

And it's righteous?

[Chris Nero] 18:26:25

And you have the conscience of what you're doing?

[Chris Nero] 18:26:29

then you're not in fear of somebody, because the only way you're gonna be in fear is if you think you're doing something that's wrong.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:37

The only reason it's gonna be fraud.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:39

Under the definition of fraud is if you're not disclosing or you're holding back something, my name's there, my address is there,

[Chris Nero] 18:26:46

Everything's there! I'm covered by the Equal Opportunity Act. You can't deny me credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:52

I got unlimited credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:54

We all do.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:00

You don't think I'm gonna tell that underwriter I just signed that application. That's a negotiable instrument.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:07

You… you are in the know.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:09

Now, you need to…

[Chris Nero] 18:27:12

make this happen.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:14

And don't deny me the credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:17

And if you want to do this right,

[Chris Nero] 18:27:21

Uh, to save face.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:23

You can go ahead and give me the loan.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:26

And then I'm going to discharge it.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:29

using a 1099-C so everybody can show face.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:32

You see, I'm not trying to do anything nefarious.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:35

I'm letting them know I know.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:36

I have a UCC1, I have an EIN, I have an estate,

[Chris Nero] 18:27:41

I have everything!

[Chris Nero] 18:27:44

Most importantly,

[Chris Nero] 18:27:47

I have the law. That application

[Chris Nero] 18:27:52

is a note! And my signature brings value.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:00

So, when I see an offer from an auction house, or an REO from the bank,

[Chris Nero] 18:28:06

or I pass by a house that the city's…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:08

got out there, boarded up,

[Chris Nero] 18:28:10

You know what I do? Does anybody know?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:12

Tom? Luke? Raina? Allie?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:28:16

Dan and Ofer?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:19

I accept the offer.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:23

You ever pass by the grocery store, and it's like…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:26

Avocados, 4 for a dollar, or whatever, right? That's an offer.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:34

Everything out here is an offer.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:39

When you go and pump gas,

[Chris Nero] 18:28:43

329 a gallon.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:45

That's an offer!

[Chris Nero] 18:28:47

You know, and then you go and you grab your credit, your debit card, and you… once you put it inside there, that's a trust!

[Chris Nero] 18:28:56

A trust just began.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:59

You're trusting that your cards are gonna go in there,

[Chris Nero] 18:29:01

You're gonna give you some gas,

[Chris Nero] 18:29:06

Just the way it is.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:10

Sign the application.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:14

For a $100,000 vehicle, we'll just keep it simple, easy number to remember.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:19

You're going to sign the application,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:21

And whether or not they approve it or reject it,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:28

We're gonna sit there and prove it.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:31

Then they're going to show you paperwork that you have some kind of loan.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:36

Yeah, I don't have a loan.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:40

Well,

[Chris Nero] 18:29:41

The uppercase has a loan.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:44

I'm just… I'm signing as an agent.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:29:44

Well, that's what… yeah, that's what I meant.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:49

I'm not telling that underwriter not to give me the loan.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:52

I'm saying you're denying me the credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:58

They gotta give me that loan. I want that loan. That's… that's… that debt is great, man.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:08

And as a creditor, I have the right, in 72 hours,

[Chris Nero] 18:30:13

to do a 1099-C.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:17

They never gave me credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:21

How could they give me credit?

[Chris Nero] 18:30:23

They went back to their vault,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:30:29

Nope

[Chris Nero] 18:30:30

Where did it come from?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:30:33

Well, the signature, we know that.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:34

But no, but where did that… where did the… the… the money come from?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:30:39

Councilmember… comes from your signature.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:30:42

You gave it?

[Chris Nero] 18:30:42

Well, there's another… there's another trick question. If you would have been in court, you would have lost.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:47

There is no money.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:50

All you have is credits and debits. We've always ever had that.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:54

That's why we have non-legal tender, which is a kind-for-kind. When you guys got your loan, you had a wire transfer.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:01

Under the electronic Truth of Lending Act, you were never told that. They withheld that. That alone is from the fruit of a poisonous tree.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:10

It's void. Anything that comes from fraud.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:15

And that's why you're going to go in there.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:17

You're gonna hit them for USC 15-1, USC 15-2.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:31:24

Well, in the meantime, where's the vehicle?

[Chris Nero] 18:31:30

It's gonna be wherever I'm gonna buy it from, whether it's Mercedes or wherever, doesn't matter.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:36

I could be buying a jet airplane if I want.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:31:41

Well, that's like 30 million.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:45

Well, it might take…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:47

This is my thoughts on all that.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:50

I believe that the people that have had some

[Chris Nero] 18:31:54

Um, good fortune.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:57

And we've had this conversation, is that…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:59

I believe your frequency needs to be good.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:03

I don't know what's in everybody's hearts.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:08

But I know it says in Proverbs to guard your heart and guard your mind, because deep down inside of a man's heart,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:16

is evil.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:18

And I don't take that in the word of evil, like, you know, it's an evil thing, or what that, but what it means to me…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:25

is that…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:28

Be cautious.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:30

of what you're asking for.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:33

Because are you getting it just because you think you want to get it?

[Chris Nero] 18:32:38

Now, if you're gonna get a… if you're gonna get, uh, something that you have a plan on,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:44

And maybe you want to get that jet for $30 million, and you want to donate that jet,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:50

And have somebody just give you a donation back for that jet.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:55

And you're gonna give that to a non-profit that's gonna utilize that for some good.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:00

That's an exchange!

[Chris Nero] 18:33:02

But if you're gonna get a $30 million jet so you can let it sit there, you don't have a plan.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:11

then you're not helping the community, you're not helping the rest of the people out here.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:17

the process, like a role play, like, you know, what's gonna…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:22

What's gonna happen in terms of, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:26

You sign the application, like any of us can get an application, we can go online right now and fill out an application at any bank, credit card, credit union, whatever.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:39

In my world, in my world, you need to go in.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:43

And you need to represent.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:46

the per son.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:49

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:49

As the… as the sun.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:52

Okay, so you're saying go in… you're saying a personal relationship inside of…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:56

said some kind of financial institution.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:33:58

you're going to basically…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:58

Yes, yes, because you're going to have your UCC1.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:03

that shows that you own your uppercase.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:08

You have a…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:11

Secured party lien under UCC9609.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:15

First in line, first in time.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:19

And you have an unlimited amount of credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:22

You have a 56 and 56F.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:27

Not to mention, you can't be denied credit under the Equal Opportunity Act.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:31

Well, at that…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:31

And there's a few other laws.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:33

At that point, if you're showing them a UCC1 and a 56F,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:38

56, you know, you own your upper cap. I mean, aren't… isn't…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:42

At this point, aren't they saying, have a nice day, have a nice day, Mr. Nero?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:47

Here's the door.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:49

No, Jason, I can only pray and hope they tell me that.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:54

Ah, okay, I get…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:54

Because then…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:56

Because then I'm just going to do a notice of liability.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:34:59

There's gotta be some ignorance out there where they're gonna send you to the door. Don't let it hit… don't let it hit you on the way out.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:01

And then I'm gonna…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:08

Jason, when I go inside of any place, I don't go inside to lose.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:15

I go inside with a very high frequency.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:18

Because I don't lose.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:21

a win. And I win because I have knowledge.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:35:25

Yeah, I get that.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:26

And if you have knowledge,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:28

then you're not gonna lose.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:30

That underwriter's going to recognize the liability right away.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:33

The worst thing they're gonna do.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:37

is give you the loan.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:39

And then that loan's gonna be on your record.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:42

And that's… that's fine, too.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:45

Because you can just do the 1099-C.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:50

And that's it.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:53

They can't produce

[Chris Nero] 18:35:56

money.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:01

Isn't that true, Mr. Underwriter, that

[Chris Nero] 18:36:04

I'm the one that created value? Is it not true that that application is my credit?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:11

Is it not true that that…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:13

Credit report is for my credit, and not for Defter.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:19

Isn't that true that my name

[Chris Nero] 18:36:22

On my personal credit report is spelled the way I'm signing as the trustee or the agent here.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:26

Authorized representative?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:29

Did you not see my signature?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:31

Without recourse, by…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:34

Grantor?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:37

Why are you going to take my application,

[Chris Nero] 18:36:41

And deny me when you already took my social security number, which is my credit card.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:47

You ran my credit card.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:52

It's over.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:54

The only thing that people are fearing right now is that they've never been taught this.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:03

And I think there's a saying that somebody, I don't remember who it was, but somebody said, if the people ever find out…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:09

how simple this is. There will be…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:12

riots on the streets.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:16

Why do you think when you go to school, they have you sign your… the… the children's name at the top of the paper because they're…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:23

They're, uh, they're creating credits, and they're packaging them into mortgage-backed securities.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:30

When you go to a business meeting,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:33

Uh, where they have these, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:37

These business gatherings or farms, what do they call them when you're looking for jobs?

[Chris Nero] 18:37:46

And they have you sign on all these applications?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:37:49

Job fairs?

[Chris Nero] 18:37:51

Yes. They're creating, uh, all your signatures are on there are being…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:56

and packaged up for mortgage-backed securities.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:00

Same thing when you have a lease.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:03

If you have a company,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:05

that you're leasing from, and there's, like, 300 units or whatever, 5 units, 6 units, or whatever it is.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:11

called, you know, I'm renting you LLC.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:15

Your lease is prepaid.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:19

They're packaging all your leases in there. How do I know that? Because they're getting credit

[Chris Nero] 18:38:23

based on all the income and leases that they have from the people.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:33

That's how you're getting the credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:35

From those leases.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:38

Same way right now, Jason, that I'll buy those 121 units.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:42

What do they want?

[Chris Nero] 18:38:45

They want the rent rolls, the leases, that's what they're loaning on.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:53

If somebody got smart, and they were in that situation,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:57

they could do a debt validation.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:00

Are you using my lease?

[Chris Nero] 18:39:02

to get credit. Just on that one, you'd win.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:05

Okay, so then it's… then I already prepaid that.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:09

You're using my credit. That's why…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:12

People think they're the landlord.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:15

But they're the landlord in that house.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:19

I'm not saying that it's the same if you're… you have one guy that's…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:25

renting out his houses to people, that's a different scenario.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:37

I mean, there's… there's a lot of things that we're not taught.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:41

And it's the same thing with your credit cards.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:46

I don't… I think it's a little different, though, where you get, like, if you get, like, 1,000 or $10,000 on your credit card, I think what you might want to do is…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:54

you know, take that credit card and maybe buy something,

[Chris Nero] 18:39:58

that's gonna, you know, make you some interest, or maybe double it, or get, you know, 50% or 30% back on it.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:06

And then pay the credit card back until you get it up to a higher limit.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:13

And then when you get to that high limit,

[Chris Nero] 18:40:15

move that high limit and discharge it.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:19

It's just a game.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:25

That's why I showed… that's why I showed you, um, uh, Jason, that when I filed for $11 million, remember that?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:34

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:35

And you asked me, do you remember what you asked me?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:41

Um, why'd you move the decimal?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:44

Just kidding. Um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:49

Bad joke.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:49

Come on.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:51

Come on, Tom.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:51

Um, are we talking about the one that was really supposed to be 110?

[Chris Nero] 18:40:57

Yes, it was $11 million, and then you said, why are you… look at this, how much money are you getting out of this? It looks like you're paying $4 million.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:06

Yeah, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:08

is the tax… the tax portion or something, I think… I think, if I remember correctly.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:13

So, Jason asked me,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:16

what was my rationale?

[Chris Nero] 18:41:19

for filing that I made $11 million.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:22

In 2023.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:24

And then I have to pay, you know, almost $4 million back.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:29

I'll tell you, because I don't care.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:32

Because when I go to the bank, and I can show I made $11 million,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:37

And I discharged…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:39

that almost 4 million?

[Chris Nero] 18:41:45

I'm looking really great to that bank.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:50

And I want to… and what do I want to do? I want to get my credit

[Chris Nero] 18:41:57

Now, no matter what happens,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:01

I'm trying… I… you want to play the game as much as you can, but if…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:05

If they deny you credit,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:10

You're gonna take them down all the way, you're gonna put a UCC1,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:14

And you're gonna put a large sum of money, because they have a lot of money,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:20

And it's gonna hurt them.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:23

And you'll get your car, or you will get your house.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:29

And yes, I've done it.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:35

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:42:38

It's not easy, but I think they know who they're…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:43

There's something that tells me that they know when somebody knows

[Chris Nero] 18:42:48

Uh, because they just test you all the way.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:55

And you have to be able to know what you're doing, because

[Chris Nero] 18:42:59

That's why I tell you guys right now,

[Chris Nero] 18:43:04

Watch what I'm doing.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:06

Reyna and Kimberly, they have their houses, taking them into the…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:12

United States District Court,

[Chris Nero] 18:43:13

Because the reality is, is that…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:17

Nobody loaned Raina anything.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:22

What Raina should have done as the creditor…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:24

was put a UCC one on them right off the bat.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:27

Because she's the creditor, and they're the borrower.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:31

No matter how much they say they're the creditor,

[Chris Nero] 18:43:34

That's, like, telling me that the sky's red.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:38

Sky's still gonna be blue.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:40

Tell me as much as you want, every day.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:43

You're the creditor. You're the creditor.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:47

is no different than telling me the sky is…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:49

Uh, red or yellow?

[Chris Nero] 18:43:54

I'm not gonna believe it, because I know…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:57

I created the credit.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:59

My signature's the value.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:01

There's a tender!

[Chris Nero] 18:44:04

And, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:05

Excuse me.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:08

And they, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:11

They don't have any proof of loaning the money.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:19

That's a fact.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:21

That would seem to be a problem.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:28

See, then they go and they hire these big attorneys, and there's, like, you know, 5 of them, and they're all, like, you know, Weinsteins, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:34

And the Bernsteins, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:37

And they go inside there, and they're like,

[Chris Nero] 18:44:40

They're telling you, you owe money, and you don't have the… you know, you…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:45

You defaulted, and instead of saying…

[Chris Nero] 18:44:50

All right, I don't know who you guys are.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:53

I never contracted with you.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:56

Well, you're here, you don't have standing.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:58

Because you don't have first-hand personal knowledge.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:02

And you're foreign.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:04

You say you're an attorney,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:07

But you're really a debt collector.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:10

I need to know if you're registered as a foreign agent,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:15

At the registration,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:18

with the registration under the Foreign Agent Registration Act.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:25

That'll be a problem.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:27

Because they're really territories.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:31

There's no law in sight there. That's why they want to do mediation.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:35

and arbitration.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:38

you look on their paperwork. If any of you ever read it,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:43

They… they… that's why they tell you they want… they don't want to go into court. They want to go arbitration and mediation.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:49

Just like they're doing with you, Ibarra.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:52

Because they can't go into court.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:57

And, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:00

they're foreign.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:02

They have now what they call… you gotta be careful, because in…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:06

They're making offers and compromises now.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:10

And where?

[Chris Nero] 18:46:12

Offer and compromises.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:15

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:16

They might still… they might say, look,

[Chris Nero] 18:46:18

We're going to give you this, you know, plea agreement, or we're gonna give you this…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:23

If you just do this, we'll do away with this.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:26

And all the while, you're losing your due process of rights.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:32

Because you're playing their game.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:36

their game.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:40

See, in the public world, it's all a farce.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:44

None of it exists.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:46

They… they… they're using the mail to run schemes and phishing on you.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:51

Because your uppercase name is not you. That's why it's so important that you have your trust now.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:56

So now, with your trust, you're gonna change all your mail.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:01

into your trust name, and you're gonna be the trustee.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:06

So that if you get any mail that comes in that's not part of your trust,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:10

You can go to the Inspector General, you can go to the Postmaster General, and you can tell them that they're scheming,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:17

trying to have fish for you to answer these mail,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:21

Because that's not you!

[Chris Nero] 18:47:24

And I gave you guys that.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:25

Uh, law.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:28

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:32

you have to know why you're doing these things.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:37

You can still be in the public.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:42

But you have to know who you are in the private.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:47

That's why when Divine answered the door, and the Secret Service walked in there, because he was making his own

[Chris Nero] 18:47:56

Postage stamps.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:57

He knew that you could make post-est steps.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:00

And he asked them for the business card.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:02

And he told them directly,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:04

If, you know, you're my public servant, but if you're gonna come inside here to arrest me, then you better arrest me now, because, you know, I don't have time for this.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:15

You see, because he knew that when he got their business card,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:18

He had them.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:21

He was up ahead of him.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:23

Because they were doing business.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:25

That means they weren't federal agents.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:28

They were… they were entities.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:30

They were doing business, and they were fictional.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:34

And he was the real man.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:37

And he knew, and he showed him where he could make…

[Chris Nero] 18:48:40

Um, the post… his own postal stamps.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:45

But what I admire about that is that he was ready to… he confronted it. Take me in, or you're gonna take me in, or get the fuck out of here.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:53

I think he told them that.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:56

Something like that.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:59

And I've also sat across

[Chris Nero] 18:49:01

I mean, you know, Damon, Jason, some of the people that are here know my history of

[Chris Nero] 18:49:08

meeting with literally the men in black.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:11

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:14

And if I would have answered wrong, I wouldn't be here right now.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:20

And you know the thing is, guys, is that I'm not better than any of you.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:25

we're all…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:28

powerful.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:30

And that's why I preach the credentials, because

[Chris Nero] 18:49:32

I told you this morning, I don't… I told Jason this morning, there's possibly, you know, there's a lot of people that think you don't have to have these

[Chris Nero] 18:49:40

credentials. You can just do, you know, regular things, and you can just go and

[Chris Nero] 18:49:45

discharged dad, I mean, it's your right.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:48

Till they take you in.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:51

like Chris Hauser.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:54

And he didn't believe in credentials.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:57

And you know when they took him into the courtroom? They didn't let him go in there. You know what they did?

[Chris Nero] 18:50:01

They put a picture of him, a poster.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:04

They wouldn't let them talk.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:08

His attorney spoke for him, even though he was on the phone.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:12

You don't gotta believe me, you can look at his story, you can look at his history, he's all over there on YouTube, if you have time.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:19

But he didn't believe in that.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:22

But he's very intelligent.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:25

Very intelligent.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:27

We got a lot of intelligent people out there.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:29

Look at Winston Shout.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:32

Talk about the artificer of a lot of this movement.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:37

doing time right now.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:39

He did not have all his credentials.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:44

I could tell you, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:47

I was in prison when I had…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:49

you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:52

when they visited me, they shut down the whole prison. They put me in the psych ward, because it's hollow ground.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:58

They came in through the back,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:00

Like a movie, with sunglasses.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:03

And sat me down in the psych ward.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:06

And ask me questions.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:12

And they went and they visited my family. They visited my wife, my mother, my father, my sons, my daughters, and they told them.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:21

To be careful.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:23

quote-unquote, I'm a dangerous man.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:28

And when my wife called me at the time,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:31

I laughed, because I said,

[Chris Nero] 18:51:33

How dangerous can I be? I'm in fucking prison.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:39

What the hell?

[Chris Nero] 18:51:41

And I didn't think about it till later.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:44

Because they know there's no time.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:50

And so here we are in the future now.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:54

All of you are going to be very, very…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:56

all of you not… are already powerful.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:03

Just that we're here,

[Chris Nero] 18:52:06

makes me proud, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:09

There was only me.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:14

And I have a lot of high hopes, and I think that, you know, going back

[Chris Nero] 18:52:19

you know, Jason and I go back, and we had a lot of conversations where I said, I believe in people.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:25

I believe in the underdogs.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:31

And I know it's not easy for any of you out there, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:34

Everybody wants to see…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:37

instant gratification.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:42

And I get it.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:46

I've… I have a… I have a… quite a few wins, but not as many as I'd like, because it's not consistent.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:52

I'm barely now at a point where I'm…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:57

I'm very, very highly…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:59

confident at where I'm at with… with my knowledge.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:05

Even just the other day when I got pulled over by the cops again.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:08

I told… he's a nice guy!

[Chris Nero] 18:53:10

Nice guy, really nice guy.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:12

He's like, yeah, I thought your license plate was, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:15

Uh, you're… you're delivering mail!

[Chris Nero] 18:53:17

You know why I stopped you? I go, no, why'd you stop me?

[Chris Nero] 18:53:21

You're a little bit too close to that truck. I said, well, I got a little gadget in my car that shows me I'm 300 feet away, and he goes,

[Chris Nero] 18:53:27

He puts his head in and goes, oh, yeah, yeah, well, you know.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:31

miss your license. I said, I don't have a license.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:33

I said, all you gotta do is, you know, take a little picture of that QR code, I'm right there.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:40

Nice guy. You know what?

[Chris Nero] 18:53:43

All it was was curious.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:48

There's no fear anymore.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:51

My frequency of fear is over.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:53

I just… I… I…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:58

It's ridiculous.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:01

And that's why, you know, right now, I'm still…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:05

you know, helping, you know, there's a few of you here that I'm helping out that… that…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:10

have chosen to walk that path.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:13

Under great extremities,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:17

hardships, and some.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:20

But although the people that I had that I was helping along the way that didn't want to… didn't want to go into those

[Chris Nero] 18:54:26

that road. They didn't want to go the extra mile, and they're gone.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:30

Because I'm not gonna be that guy where you put a straw on top of my crown,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:35

And just usurp me.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:39

But I will tell you, everyone here…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:43

has value.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:46

And I need to get some more… I need to get Ali… I need to get, you know, with you, uh, because I need…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:53

I need to get you started on doing a little bit of, you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:57

Uh, you need to start getting some education on…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:00

on some of the stuff that I have.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:02

And get a little bit more involved.

[Ally] 18:55:09

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:12

I know you have… you have some kids and all that, and I know you got…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:19

I know you got things going on cold life, but we…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:22

I'm gonna have Kimberly and Raina and Luke get you more involved in some of the stuff so that

[Chris Nero] 18:55:29

You.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:30

can get spiritually aligned.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:33

and educated, okay?

[Ally] 18:55:36

The time is now!

[Chris Nero] 18:55:40

Man, Allie, I was thinking I might have to…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:43

you know, pull the plug on you. That was a great answer.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:45

Anyhow, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:50

choke, kind of like choke, choke serious.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:52

But anyhow, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:55

I, you know, everybody here is doing very, very well.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:01

But I'm challenging, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:08

Damon…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:09

And I'm challenging Allie and Ibarra.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:17

to get it done.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:19

And if there's any help that we need,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:24

You need…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:27

then reach out.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:29

And I will tell you, Reyna and Kim and even Jason, or Luke,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:35

all have good qualities and value.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:40

All of you folks have given me respect.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:44

And I will always reciprocate that back.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:47

That's the value that's kept all of you here today.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:52

Because we're all like a bunch of children.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:55

We were just… we just want to believe.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:01

It's just I played with a little bit more toys.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:04

And… I'm, you know, trying to share my Tonka toys with you guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:11

And not because I want…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:14

you know, I don't want to be…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:18

you know, the…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:21

the master… I don't want to be that…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:24

guru, whatever you want to call me, I want to be…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:29

A minister of the law.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:31

And I want to lead by example.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:35

So that you could do what I've been doing, and even more down the road.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:41

As you all will.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:44

should be independent?

[Chris Nero] 18:57:48

Kings, queens…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:51

And… anything that's worthwhile having is going to take hard work.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:59

But it's just for you. At the end of… when everything's said and done, this is… I really believe this is about our souls.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:07

Because when we do things that's repugnant,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:10

And we've become an enemy of the state.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:13

Because we don't know how to extinguish our debt.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:16

And we don't know how…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:19

to operate.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:21

by the operation of law.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:25

then we're putting our children's children, and quite frankly,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:29

Our ancestors and everybody.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:32

Because the past now,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:36

is still now.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:39

And the future now,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:41

It's really not… is it not still the past? Is it not all now?

[Chris Nero] 18:58:50

And so, when I say you're helping your ancestors,

[Chris Nero] 18:58:54

And you're helping your children's children

[Chris Nero] 18:58:57

And the world…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:59:09

We can… can you repeat that again? You froze for a minute.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:10

How funny as that sounds.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:16

I believe that…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:18

when… when our frequency…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:23

of what we're doing.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:27

on this commercial river.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:29

We are creating that silver…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:33

that flow…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:35

of silver and gold and…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:38

And we're awakening

[Chris Nero] 18:59:43

What was still, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:44

all the ancients and the watchers are waking up, and they're like,

[Chris Nero] 18:59:49

there's still hope somebody remembered.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:54

Because ignorance is not an excuse under the eyes of the law.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:59

We should act… we should act accordingly. Notice I said act because we're all actors out here, really.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:06

This is just my image.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:09

This is just…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:12

what the image is she.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:14

But underneath that is a soul.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:19

And we need to start being that.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:23

you know, that's why they call it… they said Solomon was the wisest.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:28

But once you be… once you realize that you are the soul of man,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:33

then you recognize that Solomon is the soul of man.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:37

And when you recognize that Cain killed Abel,

[Chris Nero] 19:00:42

And you put the two together, it's cannibal.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:47

And these law merchants…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:51

And the Venetians…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:53

are the ones that brought this type of law.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:58

that was perpetrated on the people so that we wouldn't know.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:04

And these entities are cannibals.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:09

And there… there's real suffering out there.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:12

I'm not saying we're coming here to save the world, but we gotta save…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:17

when we… whatever we do, and it's right,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:20

I believe…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:23

Every 1099 we do,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:27

is a forgiveness of debt.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:30

And we're forgiving our brothers.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:34

For they not know what they do.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:37

Forgive them of their death.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:41

And there is something spiritual about that.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:45

Because sometimes our brothers…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:49

They don't know, or our sisters.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:53

But if we could start doing something now,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:00

then we can make a difference.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:03

So, Chris, remember those 1099Cs?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:06

that we did for, you know, well, you have a bunch…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:09

of court cases, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:11

And then, um, for Cobb County, we mentioned on the last call,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:14

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:16

You had, like, 20-some cases where all those 1099Cs

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:20

got filed, and then Cobb County sent them back to you. Um, I believe…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:21

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:25

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:25

Did you… you already sent the packet to the criminal investigative

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:30

division, right?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:31

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:33

Okay, but…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:36

How many times…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:39

does a court…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:41

or a financial institution,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:44

actually take the 10 and 9…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:46

NIHC, and settle out and cancel out the books.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:50

to where it's truly settled, and…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:54

The loan… I mean, I don't want to… I don't want to say forgiven, because that's not…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:58

I mean, it's… they do use the word forgiven, actually, so it kind of messes with you.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:07

It's just the way it is. It's all biblical.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:11

Even under the… even under the Book of Nehemiah.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:16

You have forgiveness.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:18

After 7 years.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:21

Everything originates from there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:24

Like, I didn't file any 1099-C on one…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:27

One credit card, but they sent me a lovely letter.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:31

And said, we're forgiving you…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:33

on this balance of whatever it was, you know? Call it $1,000, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:38

And then, I have 1099-Cs out there on some accounts, and they're like,

[Chris Nero] 19:03:39

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:45

use the French, but they say, you know, F off.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:50

You have bad servants.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:54

What?

[Chris Nero] 19:03:54

The Bible speaks of…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:57

of bad servants.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:04:00

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:01

So,

[Chris Nero] 19:04:04

we have to be like the Tin Man.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:07

No emotion.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:10

You see, they want us to get…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:13

upset and scared.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:17

About everything.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:19

Oh, I got some money for this, I want money for this.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:23

It's all originated just to bring this fear

[Chris Nero] 19:04:30

And it's real.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:37

But once you start living, like, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:04:40

I'm going to take the action.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:42

I'm going to respond like this.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:47

And I'm gonna stand up to them.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:50

This is the best time to stand up with this group, because…

[Chris Nero] 19:04:55

I'm willing to stand with you.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:58

And as I said, I'm pretty confident.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:02

Probably never been this confident

[Chris Nero] 19:05:07

In my lifetime of doing this, then…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:09

this moment.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:14

prepared not to lose.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:16

Because we were already one.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:20

Once you went in the private, it's over.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:27

Everything in the public is dead.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:30

They're bankrupt. How can they win?

[Chris Nero] 19:05:32

There's no energy. But you gotta know how to…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:35

You have to know how to coordinate, and you have to know how to bring that into the court.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:41

It's an assumption.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:45

And the debtors' debts have become due.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:51

Uh, that's what it is.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:57

So, for those, you know, like, you know, Luke's looking for a house,

[Chris Nero] 19:06:02

Luke is going to be our guy.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:04

that we'll use as a boilerplate.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:08

Uh, Raina, we're gonna, you know, when we're done in the court…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:12

That's gonna be…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:14

a placeholder of an example.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:17

Same thing with her house, her camp…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:21

I'm not waiting.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:23

We're going to take them in there. We've already had Raina inside the United States District Court.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:31

You know, and don't take this out of context, because I'm not bragging, I'm just… it's not bragging if it's the truth, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:38

It's not like all those people that are out there, they're like,

[Chris Nero] 19:06:41

Well, you need to do this, and then you need to do that. And then if you do this, and you do that, then you do… none of them have done it! They're just talking out of their ass!

[Chris Nero] 19:06:54

None of them have been through it!

[Chris Nero] 19:06:56

Don't pay your utilities, you see, and then, you know… I've been… I went to jail for a day over not paying my utilities for taking the pipes out.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:04

And putting them back in.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:09

And that Southwest Gas come out there and began taking all my plumbing out.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:16

I stayed without utilities for 2 months, and then they magically turned on.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:20

After I put a UCC1 on them.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:24

I had 17 sheriffs in my house trying to get me out of there with shotguns.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:35

And we have people out there talking about what they read about, and what they should do, and they don't even know what the hell they're…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:40

And I get it, you know, I'm just venting, but, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:43

Here, you have… here we…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:45

Here… here in this group,

[Chris Nero] 19:07:48

We're actually in the court!

[Chris Nero] 19:07:52

We're actually giving an invoice to the towing truck. This is how you're gonna… we're noticing them, we're disclosing it.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:02

Right, Raina?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:08:05

100%, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:08

And I'm not saying this either because, you know, I'm just tuning in the horn, it's not about tooting the horn, it's about the facts!

[Chris Nero] 19:08:16

They stole, they're gonna pay.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:19

They broke the law, their law. They're gonna pay.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:24

And we're gonna take them into the court.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:27

And they're gonna eat…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:31

In Revelations, it says, and we will give them their cup.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:33

twice as full.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:37

than what they gave us.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:44

So, I mean, I think this is a very special group.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:47

I think the people here…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:51

are strong mentally, emotionally, spiritually,

[Chris Nero] 19:08:55

Um, probably one of the strongest groups that we…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:58

I could say that it's… that's out there that's not on YouTube, or not on this…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:03

some big conglomerate of where they have

[Chris Nero] 19:09:06

you know, 200,000 people follow them. And look,

[Chris Nero] 19:09:10

I'm not against it, I just…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:14

I mean, you know, whatever, I'm not looking for glory.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:18

All I want is that

[Chris Nero] 19:09:20

we're gonna… we're gonna do this.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:23

And then you're going to learn for yourselves.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:27

And then what you learn,

[Chris Nero] 19:09:29

is gonna grow.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:31

to maybe 2 more people, each.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:34

And those people have people, and on and on and on, I mean, you know.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:41

All of you have grown. I mean, even Jason, when you started this, Ibaro, with your, you know, non… you didn't understand the UCCs, you jumped right in?

[Chris Nero] 19:09:49

Now you know that there's something there. You're still learning.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:53

But you're further on than what you've ever…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:56

Luke…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:58

Same with you. You got your wife involved,

[Chris Nero] 19:10:02

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:05

you get… you got your package out,

[Chris Nero] 19:10:07

you're gonna be ready to do 1099s,

[Chris Nero] 19:10:10

you know, and you'll be able to do them.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:15

Now, for those of you that got their packages out, you need to make sure you have your CAV numbers, your… you want to call, you want to make sure they have the 50…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:23

6 to 56 Ave, you want to make sure you got a 2848. These are the things that you want to be aligned with, because why?

[Chris Nero] 19:10:31

Not because you want to have all the goodies and the toys, but I will tell you right now, those will be factors for your 1099s at some point.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:41

Because I know.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:44

And they play games.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:46

Those are our servants.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:49

They service us.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:52

They're internal, that's private.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:57

It's internal, private, and then re-venue back, or…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:03

funds, and it's the service that they're supposed to bring to us.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:10

There's no incoming. There's no income.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:16

And whatever we have that we've spent Federal Reserve notes,

[Chris Nero] 19:11:21

At the end of the year, we should get all that back!

[Chris Nero] 19:11:24

Everything! Not what H&R Block tells us we're getting.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:29

Everything!

[Chris Nero] 19:11:33

Because their Federal Reserve notes.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:36

It was our energy.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:39

It's paper!

[Chris Nero] 19:11:46

Look, you guys have come this far.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:49

Remember what I told you.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:53

your CAV number, your CAF.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:55

2848, that's your internal power of attorney.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:58

Your 56 is your…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:00

fiduciary, your 56F allows you to receive funds.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:05

I mean, you know, for all I know, one of… you know, you all might be able to pull in more

[Chris Nero] 19:12:11

more money so fast, because

[Chris Nero] 19:12:14

What do I know?

[Chris Nero] 19:12:16

I'm still a work in progress.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:20

I'm… I'm… I'm a man. It's just, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:24

Dealing with a lot of crap.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:29

Maybe you guys will be like, man, I'm so on fire, maybe Rain of Fires, or Luke Files, or Jason files, or Allie files, and then, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:36

It's just automatic, because you guys might have a…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:39

Your frequency might be so pure, I don't know, it's hard for me to say, but I do believe that is true.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:47

But you're not going to get there unless you, you know, you do it.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:53

I told you guys I'll be here for the duration, you know, unless, you know, UFO takes me or something, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:12:58

And I'm not that lucky. But…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:02

I'm here, and I'll fight with you guys all the way to the end.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:09

And I do get tired.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:12

But I will fight.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:16

Totally kill me.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:19

for all of you.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:22

Because I respect all of you so much.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:26

For just…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:26

just being here and hanging in there.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:32

That's because that's your spirit speaking.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:35

So when that happens, it's like, wow.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:37

grateful.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:41

All right, so, um, any questions?

[Chris Nero] 19:13:45

that you might have? Anybody? Before…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:48

I leave to go work out.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:50

Oh, actually, I gotta go to… let's here.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:53

my contractor, and then I'm gonna go work out.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:58

Anybody?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:03

Uh, real, real quick, uh, Chris, the conditional, uh, acceptance

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:07

When you… when you, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:07

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:09

When you complete the…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:12

a conditional acceptance.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:13

Whether you're mailing it to them or emailing it to them,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:17

That correspondence. You also, if you have a court case going on, you want to, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:22

put it on the record as well, correct?

[Chris Nero] 19:14:24

Yes, everything you're doing…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:27

is for evidence.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:30

It's all evidence, not exhibits.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:33

evidence. Evidentiary…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:37

hearing.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:37

And then, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:39

I guess before someone else has a question,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:42

Another real quick, on the credentials, when you opened up…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:46

the call on credentials, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:50

I don't know if this is too deep to go into right now, but in terms of, like, when you talked about the Chris Hauser situation, and not just

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:57

It's not that his situation is important, and just using him as a hypothetical example, even if it's

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:03

Whether it's fact or not, it doesn't matter. But, um, credentials…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:08

Um, you know, when you're register… when you're sending your, um, private attorney information to yourself,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:14

registered mail, when you're sending the Treasury packet,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:18

registered mail, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:20

I don't have my notes in front of me, so I don't know…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:23

The other things yet of what you have to send and whatnot…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:27

But…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:29

you know, I know, you know,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:32

sending out the packets, you know,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:33

Uh, I think someone asked the question, like, do I send it all certified?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:38

You did all your emails, because you're trying to get everything into the current, you know, into the current…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:44

currency, stuff like that, but…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:47

really is… I mean, are those registered numbers really…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:50

Do they play a role where it's like…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:53

They check your name, and you have registered mailings,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:15:58

associated, so it's like…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:59

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:00

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:04

Jess?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:05

Yeah, yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:08

I mean, I know the power of the registered mail number,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:12

And, you know, I'm starting to learn other things that I'm doing research on.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:15

You can go 10 years in the past, and your registration number, you'll still be able to pull it up.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:15

you know, with…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:21

If you take it into the post office.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:24

Well, I'm pretty sure…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:26

Most of our family members, if not

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:30

more, probably never sent a registered mail beast in their life.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:36

Because no one really knows

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:38

the point of the U.S. Post Office or the U.S.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:43

Postal Service, right? I mean, everyone just thinks that she gets…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:45

Well,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:46

You get mailed.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:47

Jason, let me jump in for a second. I know that back in the days,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:16:52

that's the way, like, the recording company, you know, for music, uh, they used to copyright their music, like their songs and all these things.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:00

They used to do register mail to copyright.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:04

and trademark. That was back in the days.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:12

Well, I'm not… I'm not creating any songs.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:17

geobax.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:18

I know that, Jason.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:21

And I'm not making it…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:21

I just gave that as a sample.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:25

Oh. Okay, well, well, what?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:27

What did that do for them?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:35

You're asking of the importance of the registered mail number.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:17:39

I just gave you one important.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:45

No, I… I asked…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:47

I didn't ask in terms of…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:51

I'm asking for the purpose of, you know, the system and the database of where…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:56

They're tracking that, but how did the music system use

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:59

registered mail numbers.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:01

if that was your example, how did they…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:03

What kind of protections did that give them?

[Chris Nero] 19:18:08

Well, the registration number is part of the banking system.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:15

The post office has a trust.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:18

And that RE number…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:22

or RV number is in red.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:25

Which represents the private.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:28

So, when you go inside there, and you take your registration number, it's gonna show

[Chris Nero] 19:18:34

where it went, and to whom.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:37

So, if you go to a courtroom,

[Chris Nero] 19:18:39

And you want to…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:41

subpoena…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:43

or show the record.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:46

that you are the one that mailed it to yourself, or that the trust was in there,

[Chris Nero] 19:18:52

then…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:54

If you… they opened up that trust, or whatever your credentials inside there,

[Chris Nero] 19:19:00

then they have liability.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:01

they won't open them.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:04

So that's why you need the registration number on there, because it's private.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:10

Same thing with the $100 bill, you see all those numbers on there? Same amount.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:16

It's just like an RE number.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:20

So, you ask, how do I know that there's a $10 bill

[Chris Nero] 19:19:25

And… and we can track that. Well…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:30

when the, uh…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:34

Secret Service gets involved for counterfeit, they know it's counterfeit because…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:38

Well, they… even if it's the best counterfeit, they know that those…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:42

numbers don't exist.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:45

Right.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:47

So it's the same thing with RE numbers. There are identifiers for the private map.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:55

Okay, and then I… just off the top of your head…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:58

Did I miss one? Because…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:00

I don't have… I'm driving, so I don't have my notes in front of me, but…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:04

Is there another, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:07

piece in that packet that

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:09

requires, uh, a registered

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:10

Mail number?

[Chris Nero] 19:20:13

Well, I think, you know, for me, I can only speak for what I did. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but I did my…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:20

Uh, my credentials in one, and then I did my, uh…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:20:25

that non-UCC?

[Chris Nero] 19:20:27

In another one, and then I did my, uh…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:32

The one I sent to the Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:34

So that's 3.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:37

Got it.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:37

Now, some people can put their credentials…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:41

And they're on UCC together.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:44

I'm not… I don't think that's wrong. I don't… you know, I'm just saying that if…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:49

for me, I just wanted to keep it separate.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:54

Because I might have, you know, if I have to go into a courtroom or whatever, I mean, I just… this is… you're opening one.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:00

You're gonna open one. I have one here, I have one here, we go. What do you want, you know.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:06

I'm the one that owns it.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:08

It's no different than when you… when you have a mortgage and you tell them, I want to see the… I want to see the original note.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:16

And then they bring the original note, and you lose, right?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:20

If that were ever to happen.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:22

But they'll never bring it.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:26

We'll bring it.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:29

Right?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:33

Because we have it.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:43

Any other questions?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:53

Allie?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:57

How are you doing with your package?

[Ally] 19:22:02

Oh, I gotta authenticate the birth certificate, that's what I'm doing right now.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:09

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:11

Well, I've never… I don't really think you need to authenticate it. It's already authenticated.

[Ally] 19:22:18

Well, you know, with you…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:19

Where'd you get it from?

[Chris Nero] 19:22:21

Did you get it from the… the state?

[Ally] 19:22:25

Yeah, the Vital Statistics Office.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:28

And did they… did they… did they stamp it that it's…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:32

From them?

[Ally] 19:22:35

I don't think it has a stamp on it.

[Ally] 19:22:37

Let me look.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:38

Well, you had to get it from them. They had to give you something.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:42

Yeah, there's a number on it somewhere.

[Ally] 19:22:44

Okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:47

Not… you're not… he's not talking about a gold stamp or anything.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:47

I mean…

[Ally] 19:22:50

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:52

I mean, it's… it's certified.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:58

A lot of people want to say, I need to get, you know, it's like a secured party creditor.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:04

You're already a secured party, why do you need to be a secured party creditor?

[Chris Nero] 19:23:07

Either you're a credit or a secured party.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:11

Yeah. Yeah, Allie, in the drag… in the instructions, in the…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:15

some of the checklist items, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:17

We mentioned you just need the birth certificate, whether it's certificate of live birth, or the regular birth certificate, and then if you want to authenticate later on, Chris left that optional.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:27

So, you don't technically need a double authenticated, whether it's through the state,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:32

or through the United States Secretary of State, you can do that later on. We put that as optional, but it was required for the Treasury package, just so you know.

[Chris Nero] 19:23:41

Yeah, Ali, if you hold up that birth certificate in the light, you'll see bond paper.

[Ally] 19:23:46

Okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:49

Uh, just one thing in there, because…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:51

I'm not sure in the future, maybe somebody else that is… has the same case I do.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:57

Um, I listened to this recording,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:00

Like, my, for example, was from a different country, so I have…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:05

my authenticator from the state of New Jersey.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:06

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:07

Because just my… mine is a foreign one from a different country.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:10

Yeah, so that's where you have to get an office deal. It's no different than when you're in the service and you go down there, you gotta get an office deal to move your…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:18

your, uh, birth certificate when you go overseas.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:21

Same thing.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:23

But, I mean, it's… it's…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:27

You got everything on there. I mean, the problem with this movement is that

[Chris Nero] 19:24:31

people…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:34

are just, you know, they're ignorant, and that's not a bad word, it just means they just don't know, and they… they…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:40

You know, they did it a certain way, and it kind of flew off, and then throughout the years, people…

[Chris Nero] 19:24:46

I mean, if you think about it, how do you authenticate something that's already been, you know, authenticated and given to you from the state?

[Chris Nero] 19:24:53

It's… overkill.

[Ally] 19:24:56

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

[Chris Nero] 19:24:58

Yeah, and it's the same thing when I was like, why do you have to be a secured party creditor?

[Chris Nero] 19:25:07

Either you're a secured party or you're a creditor.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:11

There's too redundant, and it really is overkill.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:15

Doesn't make sense.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:20

Uh, so, you know, I think that, you know, you…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:24

I'm not saying that you can't get it later, because I think there's some value to it, you get it authenticated.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:30

And then you go to the federal level,

[Chris Nero] 19:25:32

And then there's, like, a little CPN number that they give you. You can use that like a social down the road, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:39

I mean, that's a lot of steps and a lot of things, you know, it's a lot of different…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:43

monkey business that… it's… I think it's just distraction.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:50

you know, get your credentials, and then… and then focus on doing your…

[Chris Nero] 19:25:55

How to take care of your bills.

[Chris Nero] 19:25:56

Wouldn't that be just great? I'm just saying.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:00

Imagine this. You got your credentials,

[Chris Nero] 19:26:04

You took care of your car, took care of your house.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:08

No fields.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:11

And to free clear.

[Ally] 19:26:12

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:13

Feels great when I drive my car, and I don't owe anything on it.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:17

Or my houses, or whatever. And I'm still…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:21

You know, in my own little wars, because they don't let go that easy.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:27

And that's why I continue to get more and more educated every day, because

[Chris Nero] 19:26:32

I don't know everything.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:35

I don't know everything.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:38

But I know a lot.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:41

But I learned the hard way.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:45

really blood, sweat, and tears.

[Chris Nero] 19:26:47

then, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:49

blood sacrifices, guys. Lots of sacrifices, but, you know…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:52

We all have to, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:55

We all have our own journey, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:26:57

It doesn't always have to… I don't know if it has to be pain and suffering along the way, whatever you want to call it, going, walking in the fire,

[Chris Nero] 19:27:03

You know, so you can get pure gold. I mean, you know, all that stuff. I get all that stuff, I mean.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:08

I mean, you know, back in the day, I was a big-time partier, you know, womanizer, and I was doing all the, you know, going out to the, you know, the Grammys and the Playboy Mansion, partying with all the people, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:21

you know, yadda yadda yadda yadda, I don't even remember half of it, it doesn't matter.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:25

It's not impressive.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:28

Um, you know, used to watch all those gangster movies, you know, The Godfather.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:32

You know, who wants to live like that?

[Chris Nero] 19:27:35

Who wants to… who wants to live… how do you romanticize something like that?

[Chris Nero] 19:27:40

Even now, when I look back, I was like, man, what a waste.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:45

you know, drinking and partying and…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:49

But I… I wouldn't be who I am today

[Chris Nero] 19:27:53

if I didn't go through all that.

[Chris Nero] 19:27:55

And so it's… it really is a double-edged sword, but…

[Chris Nero] 19:27:58

you know, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:02

It's, um, really is a narrow road.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:07

that we're all on, guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:09

And sometimes the people that are the closest to us is…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:15

So I was, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:17

It's very difficult.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:19

But I'm always here for you all, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:23

Allie, we need to get you a little bit more involved, so Raina and Kimberly and Luke, we're gonna get Allie a little bit more involved, okay?

[Chris Nero] 19:28:30

And, uh, I don't know what's going on with Nicole, but I need, you know, for…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:35

Uh, everybody start reaching out to Nicole and, you know, checking up on her and seeing what's going on.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:40

We're not here to scold her, we're not a cult.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:44

I don't know, I belong to… I did this when I was growing up with some insurance company, and they were always like, where were you at?

[Chris Nero] 19:28:49

the weekend. What'd you do it? I was like, Jesus, go to your cult?

[Chris Nero] 19:28:53

And I ended up leaving them, but um…

[Chris Nero] 19:28:56

we gotta be sensitive to people.

[Chris Nero] 19:28:58

Because we all have, you know, our own…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:02

issues that we're dealing with, but we want to be there

[Chris Nero] 19:29:05

as kind as we can.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:07

So, um… alright guys, so this is… it's a big week.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:11

It's a big freaking week.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:14

I'm working overtime, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:16

And I'm…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:19

I will tell you, I'm… I'm…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:22

I'm excited about where we're going in the courtroom.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:26

I'm excited about…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:29

who we have in the group.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:32

And, um, I do believe a lot of good things are about to happen. I mean,

[Chris Nero] 19:29:37

I got a lot of good stuff coming in from the IRS, a lot of credits, and…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:41

whatnot. If…

[Chris Nero] 19:29:43

If and when that comes in, you know, maybe I'll just say something like, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:29:47

Nice little blue color or something.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:50

Because it's very difficult to speak of these things.

[Chris Nero] 19:29:54

When things like this are

[Chris Nero] 19:29:56

Or do come into fruition.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:29:59

Just send out… just send everybody a nice steak dinner gift card, then we got it.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:06

Maybe, yeah. I think that's the way it kind of operates.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:09

Absolutely. No, Tom wants to think.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:10

But, um…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:12

Tom wants steak.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:14

No.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:19

I really love, uh…

[Chris Nero] 19:30:21

I really love them, put some more divine out there for you guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:24

you know.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:27

I don't think anybody ever knew everything.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:29

or none of us know everything.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:32

But… we got something special here, guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:36

Got some real warriors. Real warriors.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:38

And uh… so, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:30:41

I'll be in touch with everybody. That includes everybody here. That means Lou, Callie, Raina, Jason, Damon…

[Chris Nero] 19:30:48

Um, you know, hopefully everything works out with James, and Kimberly's having a good time in Columbia, and, you know,

[Chris Nero] 19:30:54

They're not trying to charge you too much, as I know they are.

[Chris Nero] 19:30:57

from time to time, everywhere, she goes.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:00

Uh, because that's what they do up there.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:02

But, uh…

[Chris Nero] 19:31:07

Just have a good weekend, remain of our weekend, and then we'll talk later, guys.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:31:12

Right.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:31:13

Thank you, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 19:31:16

Alright guys, you guys take care