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Chris Nero Meeting August 4, 2025

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You know, how did I liquidate? How did I… do this, how did I do that?

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Um, so… We're gonna go through the process today.

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Oh, hold on, I'm getting to my car. We're gonna go through the process.

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Uh, Raina, do you have an IRS 966 out?

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Yes, I… I got it ready.

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All right, hold on.

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Jason, are you recording?

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Jason, you're recording?

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[Chris Nero] 19:52:43

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No, I got it. Go.

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Alright, so Jason, when we start these, always record.

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There you go. Sorry it was a little slow.

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Okay, so the IRS Form 966. I'm not saying that you can't do it without your credentials.

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Uh, but think of it like… going into a casino.

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If you have your credentials and, um… You know how to… what do they… they would call us a card counter.

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If we had… those who us are equivalent to credentials, right?

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And for those who… don't have their credentials, but maybe have some of the stuff.

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Again, I'm not saying to anyone. A lot of people, and I don't even like to… I don't even like to use the word lucky.

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Uh, but, hey! There's times when you do it.

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And you may get lucky. Uh, but I do believe if you do the form.

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Correctly. That you can still liquidate.

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That's my personal opinion. And… it's my two cents, so that's what it's worth, two cents.

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Uh, so… when you get to the point where you're near your endgame.

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And there's gonna be a couple of other techniques that we're gonna use, but… When you get to the end, and you've saved up all your evidence.

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Uh, whether it's Daniela, or Ibarra, or… Whomever, car.

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Um, a house. Your credit cards, and you get to that point.

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To where you've been beat up. And you feel like Rocky Balboa when you're like, hey, you tell Mick to cut your eye, and you're at that point.

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That's when you're going to bring this in, because now you have evidence.

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What you're gonna do… is you're gonna gather all the evidence, which is all your notices, if you have transcripts at the court.

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All the stuff that they did to you. That is illegal.

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Unlawful… when the judge said, shut up and silenced you, he silenced you.

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When the judge concealed information that's concealment. When they ignored your 1099s, those are… non-negotiable instruments.

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Which are on the IRS record. Uh, and when you're done your 211s and your 3949s, and you've done everything.

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And for those of us who are near the end game, uh, who are doing mortgages with me, or, uh, cars, or whatever.

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Uh, I have a… That's what I was in there for. I have a different solution I'm working on that, and I'll share that with you guys later, but for now.

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If you really want to go after these guys. We are the stockholders.

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This is how I took care of Castle Mortgage. But you have to be prepared.

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Because they are like tanks. It is true… There is a swamp.

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It is true. Uh, but I would even call it even lesser. I would call it the sewer creatures.

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And I used to say something… that I thought was so true.

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And now I've changed my mind. And what I used to think was.

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These bankers don't care about the houses. They only care about.

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The negotiable instruments. And I would say that the houses are there for, like.

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The decoy. Look at me, look at me. Um, I wanna… Uh, we're just gonna take the house so everything looks normal on its face. I don't believe that's the case.

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What I believe is that. That's true in part.

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But you got sewer wrapped. And those are the ones who want the crumbs.

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That's the houses. That's the car.

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And that's your credit card applications. Those are the sewer routes, because.

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They already have… your credit, they're already monetizing, fractionalizing, cloning them.

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But you know what you don't have? Understanding of?

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Is the sewer rat. In your neighborhood. I don't know if you guys ever remember that Sesame Street. These are the people in your neighborhood.

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And these are the sewer rats. In your neighborhood.

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And they're the ones that are taking the crumbs, which is your cars and your negotiating with your… like, the credit card holding companies and whatnot, and your houses.

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And here's what I've uncovered. And maybe I was just naive.

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I mean, honestly, I was in shock. And that takes a lot… I mean, like, if a little UFO landed right here, I'd be like, I wouldn't be in shock. I'd just be like, what took you so long?

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But… as I started… because I have 20-something properties. And a lot of you folks may have been listening, and for those folks that.

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Didn't hear, for whatever reason. I have 25 properties plus.

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That have been foreclosed on. But I'm maintaining them in the private.

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And they're really… freaking frustrated with me.

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Because I have tenants in there, and they can't get them out.

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And so then I, you know, I do the appeals, and, you know, we keep going, and… but I'm tired of that crap, right?

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Like, we're all tired. So, when I talk to Ibarra, and I talked to Daniela, or I talk to anyone out there that's in the courtroom.

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And you're feeling like there's no remedy, you will never… get remedy in that courtroom, because they are dead. They are insolvent.

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There is no law. There are territories inside there. The only thing you're in there for is to get.

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Evidence. That exhibits. Evidence. And when you put all that evidence together.

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And we now… come out of the public into the private, because you have to remember, folks.

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Everything in the public. This crap.

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Everything is privatized. They took our private instruments, which is our private estates.

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And they brought it into the public.

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And the reason we can't get remedy is because in the public.

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Everything is dead and insolvent, they can't hear you. And the frustration that we're… that everybody's getting out here in this type of movement.

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Is that they're commingling the public with the private. Thinking that the public… is the public, when in reality, the courts are private.

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And credit cards are private agencies. Uh, if you look at… if you pull up, like, Wilmington savings and loans, they have, uh, Angel Oaks.

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That's their trustee. They have a REIT, a real estate investment trust. Most hard money lenders, same thing.

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See, they're privatizing, and they use something like Wilmington, or Select Portfolio.

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We're Carrington, or anybody. Those are, um… The front people. You guys remember Scooby-Doo?

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When the kids would catch them at the end, and then they'd… They go, this is not who he is, and they'd pull the face off.

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That's what's happening here. See, Wilmington is not really the guy, it's Angel Oak.

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And so what we have to do… is we have to start taking from them.

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These are… our children.

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These are our children, they're bad children. You see, we created these children.

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Whether it's you and I, or our… Parents, parents, parents…

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We created these children. The Ten Commandments. Thou shalt not steal, they're stealing from us. Honor thy father, honor thy mother. They're not honoring us.

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Thou should not kill, they're killing people civilly. And they're just kids, they're like, nah, no, we're not really killing them, we're just playing, look at us.

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We're taking care of them in prison. We feed them, we clothe them, we give them TV, they're just so happy!

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See, that's the way they justify it. And I'm just… I'm embellishing a little bit, because.

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The reality is, is they're entities. Spirits.

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And we have to bring in the highest law. The law of the air.

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That's why we are spiritual. And the highest law.

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Is the spirit of fire. A ring of fire, the seventh… The number of perfection.

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The fire of liquidation.

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And… You have to know what the hell you're doing, guys.

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Because if you get challenged. And they've… I don't know if they'll challenge you.

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But you have to know what the hell you're doing. So when you get all your evidence together.

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And now… you default them.

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And you do your self-confessed. Stipulations and confessions.

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And you get a certificate of dishonor. That's a foreign judgment. Now you can put all that on a UCC1.

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Preferably in their locale. And it's real simple.

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You're just gonna put all their belongings in there, and like I did in California, and then I did it over here in Arizona.

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And uh… and then you're gonna get a 2848. You're gonna take over that company.

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Under the power of attorney. They're gonna get a 56 fiduciary.

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You're gonna take over that company. And the most important is the 56F, because you're going to drain all their.

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Um, cash. They're non-legal, they're tender that's coming in.

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And I would have arm's length. I would do what I did.

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Directed to the Treasury. You will have to have a contract with the Treasury.

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And you will assign your interest. To the Treasury.

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And you will give them the Treasury 30%, and then… You will tell the Treasury what to do with the rest, whether it's going to be deposited into your.

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Non-interest-bearing account, or in your estate. Whatever it may be. In my case.

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I didn't go that far, I just… I left it to the Treasury to… uh, liquidate them.

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And… I can only tell you that. Whatever capital went, it went into my… Uh, Puerto Rico at stake.

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That's another story that we'll have to cross when the time comes.

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But your goal should not be… how much cash you're gonna get.

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You… you most likely will get it. But I don't… I can only tell you, I don't ever… I never think about it. I don't think about the cash. I think about… my house. My houses.

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I think about my car. This car is zero.

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You gotta be prepared. I've gone against… The mob, the tyranny.

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I don't tell you guys everything I go through. But I had my house surrounded by sheriffs.

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With shotgun.

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And… we, you know… You gotta kill me to scare me.

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And that's later on when we got the call from, you know, the city council.

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People that were like, hey, we wanna… We want to talk to you, we want to work something out, because you see.

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When… when there's a man like me who doesn't want to play the game anymore.

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Now I'm the anomaly, because you can get me in a court.

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And I asked the gentleman. His name was Spencer. I asked him.

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I said, what are you doing? You know, you guys, don't you believe in due process of rights? This and this, and nobody… I said, who called you? He says.

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Uh, well, a sergeant. I said, a sergeant? He goes, yeah, sheriff's department.

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And I said, are you kidding me? I said. Why is the sheriff calling you? He goes, well, the sheriff got a call from the judge. Jesus Christ!

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The only thing I was telling… I gotta peel the face off, is there, who's behind the judge? You know, is it the governor?

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But it wasn't the governor, it was just… that's what I know.

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Everything was recorded. Hence why I went to the FBI.

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Spoke with the FBI today. And CID.

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So, you know. This isn't one of those classes where you're just hearing a story.

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This isn't a movie. You're in a class where… What you have is you have somebody who's leading away.

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Through tyranny, because what I've seen over here. And the people that I've worked with, whether it's.

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You know, you borrow, or Danielle, or anybody. I'm just mentioning these two people because I know I've done, you know, a lot of.

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Um, you know, really step-by-step. And I've heard their pain.

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Because, you see, the biggest thing that you will never get rid of is that state of mind, as the Supreme Court.

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Pace law states that you… your damages are based on your state of mind because you have.

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You could never get over, like, you know, people coming at your… terrorized, and you're taking pictures, knocking at your door.

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Terrorizing. Emotionally, spiritually.

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I ain't putting up with that shit. And so… What I suspect is that what I'm going through.

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Is most likely a cookie cutter of what's happening all around the country.

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In your counties, every county. I know, because I've gone… to places, and I've seen it, whether it's Sedona, Miami.

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Uh, New Mexico. I'm telling you, it's the same bullshit!

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The only thing that I've seen now. Is that I know now that the Pima County Supervisors Board is involved.

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You see, this is a money grab. These are the wraps.

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In your neighborhood. These are the sewer rats.

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These are the ones that want the crumbs. And those who are… those are who were fighting the system.

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We've got a judge. Who is perpetrating fraud.

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And colluding… with other bad actors.

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Knowing that our promissory note. Is a negotiable instrument.

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That we have value of. That has been traded, because if it hadn't been traded, they wouldn't have accepted it, because we had to have owned it before they securitized it.

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And then we have attorneys. Saying they're law firms, but in reality, when you call them, they say, this is a debt collector, too.

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So now they're violating Federal Credit Act. Gap, um, uh, standard accounting laws that they're breaking.

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Uh, trust laws, monopolizing… I mean, I could go on and on.

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And then you have the city council and sheriffs working in unison.

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So, the sheriffs are their muscle.

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So I had to expose them, and I took them to the United States District Court. I came in and… as the Private Attorney General, and I'm in there as well.

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But I have to fight… federal judges, as you saw that I took down that judge, and now the judge is trying to use.

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Colluding with the Arizona-United States District, um. Attorney. They're USA.

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To try to overturn… The judgment, which is impossible.

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And I'm fighting that, too. So, a lot of you people might say, well, Jesus freaking Christ, that's… you know, there's no hope!

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Looks like we're sued. I don't look at it like that.

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I look at it differently. I look at it like the rattle right now.

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They know… they know who I am now. That's… I'm not saying that out of… to be a megomaniac, look at me, guy. No, they know who the fuck I am.

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Because I'm pissed. I get a judgment, you want to take it away from me?

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What the hell is going on? I got houses that I have lawful rights and UCCs on, and you want to send the… the local cabal against me?

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My public servants that I paid. I'm about to liquidate them, too.

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I got the sheriff's office, I got the governor's office, I got the risk management office.

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The Judicial Commission, the police. You name any outfit out here in my locale, I own them on a UCC1 financing statement with the.

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I don't know, 100 million, I think. And I'm gonna liquidate him.

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Sick of it. But you have to have everything in order.

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Because a lot of you are gonna ask, well, how are we able to take over these companies?

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They're vacant. They're insolvent.

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And because they violated your rights, there are charges on there.

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Oh, but we can't collect those charges? Because… You're insolvent? Oh… That's bad.

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Gonna have to liquidate here. Because your debts have become due.

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It's time to wind up. That's why the Wicked Witch of the West.

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Went and circled, she was winding up with the water. And that's a legal, lawful term for liquidation.

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The problem that we've been having as we've been going to the public.

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To file our chapters. There's some more collusion in there.

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So guess what? How many of you folks knew about the IRS 966? Anybody?

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Anybody? At any given time?

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No, I didn't know.

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Okay. So the IRS 966 is a liquidation. It says it right on there.

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Corporate dissolution and liquidation. Does everybody know what corporate dissolution and liquidation means?

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Everybody? It just means that they're in… It means they're insolvent.

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And we're gonna liquidate them. The next question's gonna be, well, how can we liquidate if we're not part of that company. No.

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We're the owners of that company. Or the stockholder.

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Of everything out here!

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But you have to claim it. And then you gotta do it. You gotta have the courage to do it. Well, we're scared that, you know.

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If we do this… Well, that's why I say have your damn credentials.

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But it doesn't mean that you can't do it if you know how to… if you know how to speak the language and say, look.

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Here's what happened. They violated my rights under the color of law.

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They deprived me of my God-given, unannable rights. These bad actors silenced me.

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In what was supposed to be a court of law, but I found out it's not a court of law.

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I gathered all this warranted information, which I call evidence. I put it together.

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I send them notices. I gave them an opportunity to cure, they didn't. I defaulted them. I even went a step further, I gave them another chance.

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Before I give them a certificate of dishonor. I don't know what part… was it the first, the fourth, the fifth part that they didn't want to respond?

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So, all that was a… that's… that's the court going on through the post office.

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The highest form of court. You guys have your little gadgets, you can check all that stuff out.

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That's the only real court that we have. And you want to go in there, and you want to get all that together.

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And when you have all that, then you're gonna put it inside your… UCC1, your non-UCC1.

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Then you're gonna get… Your 2848.

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You're gonna take over that company. You're gonna get your 56.

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You're gonna take over that company as the fiduciary. You are the banking commissioner.

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You are the banking examiner of that company. You know why it only takes one stock.

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Um, stockholder to walk into a stock. Um, corporate meeting.

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And all he has to do is say. Nobody else is here, he could speak for everybody.

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That would be you.

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And then you're gonna do your 56F, then you're gonna contract.

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With the Treasury. And you're gonna package everything up.

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And you're gonna send it to the Treasury. And they're gonna liquidate this company.

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Line 635

And that's gonna be the end. Problem is, is that people are scared, and people.

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Don't have the knowledge. And I can only tell you this, if you're scared.

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Don't do it. If you don't feel you can defend yourself.

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Line 644

Don't do it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it, I'm gonna take the sheriffs down, I'm gonna take… if I gotta take the governor's office, I don't give a damn.

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You better kill me. Oh, I guess you can, you really try to kill me so many times.

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You know, blown up by car, taking me to prison. You know, can't do it.

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[iPhone] 20:18:38

Line 653

Sending, you know. 15 sheriffs to surround my house. What the hell are… I got police reports.

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Line 656

I'm… I'm so pissed. I got risk management. I'm gonna liquidate risk management, because you know what? They're not doing what they're supposed to. I went and served the governor's office.

Line 658

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Have I served the governor's office, I serve CID, I serve the FBI, and the FBI's gonna meet with me again, they're giving me a special agent.

Line 661

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Line 662

And those agencies that don't do anything, guess what? It's okay. You have volition, you have knowledge, you are now my witness.

Line 664

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Line 665

Bribes. I can subpoena you. If I exhaust my administrative remedies in the public, I can go after you in the private now.

Line 667

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And I will take down the law firms. Today, I was on the phone, on a Zoom, with one of my properties, and I told the judge.

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That they were under investigation by the FBI, the CID. Of course, I'm only doing it to put it on record, because you see, these people… are no different than the 10 plagues that Moses put on the Pharaoh.

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You see, the pharaoh… He killed all the firstborn.

Line 676

[iPhone] 20:19:56

Line 677

Well, you know, the creators of God killed all the firstborns.

Line 679

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It could kill all the birth certificates. They were looking for laminations to… Uh, to create bricks from their straw.

Line 682

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If you read Exodus, that's what they were doing.

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And all the way to the end, like the judges do, because they're so… haughty and prideful.

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That they don't think you're gonna know how to liquidate them.

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Even after they rode out with all the people and their, you know, their spaceships, I mean, they're donkeys.

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And all the belongings that they had, at the very end.

Line 697

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The pharaoh didn't learn. He sent his army. And we all know the story of what happened at the Red Sea, they got liquidated.

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This is the red represents the power of. The red color of the man's blood.

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And they got liquidated.

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So… That's what I'm putting together.

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To lead by example. Because most likely… not most likely, I'll lay my… I'll lay you dollars to donuts on my life on the line, that whatever's going on here is going on over there.

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Wherever you're at. So.

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I will tell you… Uh, for those of you that I'm working on mortgages, and I'm working on cars, or I'm working on, uh, credit cards.

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This is the end game. As, uh, Morrison would say.

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This is the end. That'd be Jim Orson.

Line 724

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This is the end. So, I put out… A lot of stuff out there for you guys to start reading and looking.

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If you don't read it, and you don't see it, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

Line 730

[iPhone] 20:21:52

Line 731

We're all busy. I'm busy. I'm busy fighting for you, and you know who you are individually.

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Line 734

And I'm busy fighting for myself. So we need more warriors, we need more people with credentials, we need more people that are notaries, we need more people to… to be bold and start liquidation.

Line 736

[iPhone] 20:22:14

Line 737

But don't do it unless… You have a strong constitution on your shoulder.

Line 739

[iPhone] 20:22:21

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And if you don't, it's okay. You need to know how to defend yourself. You need to… it needs to come out of you like water.

Line 742

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Line 743

And for those… that are working with me, then, you know, we're gonna do the… I'm gonna do the liquidation, because I've started it, and I'm gonna start liquidating.

Line 745

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And… let's just only think about that… your house, or your car, or your… or whatever problem that you have, let's… you know, the money will come.

Line 748

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Line 749

I'm doing stuff right now… that I have a large sum of money that I'm working on, I can only do in increments of a little over $10 million.

Line 751

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Line 752

And I showed you that they accepted my 1041. I've showed you guys everything, and for those of you that are.

Line 754

[iPhone] 20:23:11

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You know, still overreaching, and still looking all over the place.

Line 757

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And, uh, listen, that's up to you folks. In this world.

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That I'm in… This is the reality. This isn't… a group that's telling you.

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That they read about something. Or they hired somebody to do it.

Line 766

[iPhone] 20:23:38

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Uh, this is a group of… taking action.

Line 769

[iPhone] 20:23:45

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I'm not asking you guys to do anything. I'm gonna take the action.

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I'm gonna take the responsibility for my liberty, my justice, my safety.

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My soul. And I'm prepared.

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Not only to live. But to die.

Line 781

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But I am also protected. And I've learned that.

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And every one of you that's here.

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I believe in you. Or you wouldn't be here.

Line 790

[iPhone] 20:24:27

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And for those who are no longer here. That was meant to be.

Line 793

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There are certain people I've spoken to that are close to me.

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That I predicted things. Not because I'm a soothsayer or anything like that, or I'm a magic person.

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But because I believe in what my spirit. Of our Creator, when He speaks to me. I know.

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Who is with me? Who's with this group?

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I already know who's gonna be here in the end, and I already know who's not gonna be here next week.

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I believe that Joe will have value. I just… I just don't sometimes feel that.

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And I'm only telling you, I'm sharing my feelings. I don't… and I do a lot… there are things that I do in the background for all of you.

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And that's why I said I won't… I won't… I won't… don't… I don't want to loan money anymore. I don't want to do anything like that, because just… It's heartbreaking to me.

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When people don't keep their words. And I do.

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It is, it's really… it's troubling to me. Because… I just feel like… There is so much spiritual… vampire, energy sucking out of me without… any equity. I will tell you that.

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If it wasn't for just, you know, some of the people inside here, I would have just walked away.

Line 826

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Because… I feel like I'm going into a different realm.

Line 829

[iPhone] 20:26:18

Line 830

Um, but I won't… I won't walk away. Can you guys… Who's mute, please mute.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:26:26

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Alisa, please mute.

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[Alyssa] 20:26:32

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Sorry.

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And… I'm not a quitter.

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I made a decision. And whether there is… 5, 10, 15, 20… Whatever.

Line 844

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I will continue walking with you. And for those… who don't think there's value. I mean, you know.

Line 847

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Listen… I'm indifferent.

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It's not gonna bother me. I don't… I don't give it a thought.

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I'm… I'm so enrolled. And the passion of the law.

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I am a lover of the law. I've given up my whole life to become a lover of the law.

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Not going out. I want to go out.

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I like to have a relationship. But I've already figured that I'm doomed.

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To have that happen for me.

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Because I don't know how that could happen. With everything that I know, and everything that I'm doing.

Line 871

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And I'm not saying that because I want anybody to feel sorry for me, I'm just saying it because it's a fact, and I've… come to that conclusion.

Line 874

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I said something to somebody the other day, one of my other clients, that said.

Line 877

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He's like, he's like, he's like, so you don't drink? I go, no, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. She goes, so you're like a monk.

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I didn't think about that. And I had to agree with him. I said, yeah, I guess I am.

Line 883

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But… Hey.

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I'm… I'm… I'm… I'm alone, but I'm not lonely, believe me. I'm good.

Line 889

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I'm here for you guys, as well as I am for myself. This is why I do these things, because you know what? I don't want to do things.

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That I'm just doing for myself. I want… I want to do these things for all of you.

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So that you can learn, because, you know, you guys are living in, you know, some of you guys are living, like.

Line 898

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Not just you guys, I'm saying in general. In a fantasy.

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Do you think because you go into a courtroom, and then you do this, and you send out notices, and you do this, and… We're in a war.

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They want to steal from you. They want to kill you.

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If you don't know they want to kill you, then they're… whether they do it fast or slowly through the air, through the food, through the water.

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Through the vaccines, if you don't know they want to kill you by now.

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And if you don't know that they're stealing from you because they're taking your promissory notes, they're taking everything you're… Utilities and everything that you own.

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Then you're living in a fantasy. A different dimension than me.

Line 919

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But if we stick together. And that's easier said than done, isn't it?

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Because a lot of us are, like, you know, little children in the forest chasing squirrels.

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It's not enough. To hear reality.

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I gotta go chase that squirrel. And I gotta go chase that squirrel, and maybe if I get that squirrel.

Line 931

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I'm gonna get a remedy. I never said I was a savior.

Line 934

[iPhone] 20:30:16

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I said I've got… the remedy I've had, I shared with you.

Line 937

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How it's worked for me. And the credentials.

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[iPhone] 20:30:26

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Because you can't build a foundation. You can't build a house without a strong foundation.

Line 943

[iPhone] 20:30:36

Line 944

And I've had to learn the hard way. But now… We have a great group, guys.

Line 946

[iPhone] 20:30:45

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A lot of you are busy, and I know that, and I'm sensitive to it.

Line 949

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You know, I know there's some people that talk to me and think I'm insensitive, like, oh, I gotta work, I gotta do this, I don't have time, I got a family, I got this.

Line 952

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Oh, Chris, look at you, you get to go, and you get to do this, and you, you know… You get all the time, you don't have a job, you got money, blah blah blah blah blah. Okay.

Line 955

[iPhone] 20:31:06

Line 956

All right, just watch too much Batman. Because I am Bruce Wayne.

Line 958

[iPhone] 20:31:14

Line 959

I got real, real. Shit that I'm dealing with.

Line 961

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But the good news is, for all of you, is that while I'm making… doing this shit, it's gonna help you guys out.

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You see, because I'm learning… remedies.

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And I'm… I am… I am confident.

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I'm confident for all of you that I'm doing… that we're doing work.

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Together. I am confident. That I have the remedy.

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And it's called the law. But we gotta use our public… governmental public servants.

Line 979

[iPhone] 20:31:59

Line 980

I don't know about any of you guys out there that know any of the other groups.

Line 982

[iPhone] 20:32:03

Line 983

Um, they went to the FBI or to CID. I know that Patrick Devine had the balls to do it.

Line 985

[iPhone] 20:32:12

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And he had a visit, because he was making his own postal steps.

Line 988

[iPhone] 20:32:17

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He thought they were gonna take him in, you know?

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None of us will ever be Patrick Devine. There'll never be another you, another Ibar, another Daniela, another Reyna, another Elise, there would never be… anybody, like… Or me.

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So, what do you want to do? Do you want. You want to continue on this path?

Line 997

[iPhone] 20:32:47

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Are you guys just, you know, like those… those, uh, those ants that walk in circles, and you just keep walking in circles because you're following.

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Somebody. Not asking you to follow me, I'm just saying. Walked next to me.

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I'm not here to walk in front of you. I don't want you guys to walk behind me.

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[iPhone] 20:33:06

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Just walk together. And get there together. And learn together. You guys think I have all the answers? I don't have… I'm bullying through the answers!

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I've… I've… have I broken through? Yes.

Line 1012

[iPhone] 20:33:22

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But we gotta have consistency. I was excited when I got that 1041, you know, uh, through, because.

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[iPhone] 20:33:30

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That right there is going to bring consistency. I'm getting ready to send out $10 million.

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[iPhone] 20:33:37

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And I have legitimate transcripts. And I have legitimate 1099 OIDs to go with it.

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But it has to go to Puerto Rico, guys, because it's a territory.

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There's a lot of things we all need to learn together. I'm not trying to withhold, but.

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[iPhone] 20:33:56

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Jesus Christ, we're going in 8 months, and we're still having people get credentials.

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[iPhone] 20:34:00

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I'm not saying that to piss you guys off, but maybe I want to piss you off.

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[iPhone] 20:34:06

Line 1034

I need more warriors.

Line 1036

[iPhone] 20:34:13

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So, I know Nicole has signed up to help. I'm gonna get media. I need to get media.

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[iPhone] 20:34:19

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I never wanted to get media, but now… It's like that every time they pull me, it was that… they pull me right back in!

Line 1042

[iPhone] 20:34:27

Line 1043

Um. Because we gotta beat them in the public arena. I gotta… I gotta go out there and say, I have a judgment against the United States District Judge, and he's taken the… They took my judgment away.

Line 1045

[iPhone] 20:34:43

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Which is… it's unlawful. It's impossible, you can't do it. I really looked at the law.

Line 1048

[iPhone] 20:34:48

Line 1049

Um… But that's where we're at, guys.

Line 1051

[iPhone] 20:34:55

Line 1052

So, back to the 966, that's your… your Huckleberry.

Line 1054

[iPhone] 20:35:05

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And only use it… If you're confident.

Line 1057

[iPhone] 20:35:13

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You know, the difference between. A lot of everybody out there, for that matter.

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[iPhone] 20:35:20

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Is that they're scared. That they're gonna get a visit from the FBI or CID.

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[iPhone] 20:35:27

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Well… I'm the boogeyman now.

Line 1066

[iPhone] 20:35:32

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And the FBI got a visit from me. And I got the receipts.

Line 1069

[iPhone] 20:35:38

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And so did CID. All it takes is one good.

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[iPhone] 20:35:46

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Official. We are at a time in this… Like, we've never been with today's administration.

Line 1075

[iPhone] 20:35:54

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Where the time is right. Where they want to take down judges. They want to take down bad actors.

Line 1078

[iPhone] 20:36:02

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Now's the time to make our moves.

Line 1081

[iPhone] 20:36:08

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So, as I said before. I'm speaking to all of you.

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[iPhone] 20:36:14

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Individually. Of whom I'm helping.

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[iPhone] 20:36:21

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I appreciate your patience. I know every one of you individually.

Line 1090

[iPhone] 20:36:27

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I have all your cases individually, but I'm one guy. And I am… working literally day and night.

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[iPhone] 20:36:38

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And Nicole, you know, she signed up to help me with.

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[iPhone] 20:36:42

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The media stuff… Um, I don't know how much he's gonna do, uh, or she can do, and I'm sure if she needs help, she'll reach out.

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Uh, we gotta get this out there, guys. You see, they're stealing from us.

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[iPhone] 20:36:59

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And we're the… we're the stockholders. It's like in Deuteronomy, I think it's Deuteronomy 91, where it says, And the whole world is off course.

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And the head has become the tail. And the tail has become the head.

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That shit's gotta stop.

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We gotta take back… What's ours?

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We've got a change up here.

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[iPhone] 20:37:33

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I want to do some incredible things for this group. And I'm even… I mean, but hold on.

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[iPhone] 20:37:46

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This one's for you, Luke. This is my, uh, local package.

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[iPhone] 20:37:51

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On property that I'm taking over. Um… This is the… Affidavit of Fiduciary discharge and trust claim on a property.

Line 1126

[iPhone] 20:38:05

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Uh, I got the whole process where I took it over.

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[iPhone] 20:38:09

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And I'm gonna go record it. And I'm gonna take the property, I'm gonna turn on the utilities, and uh… City-owned.

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Auction. But I know… the law, and I know what I'm doing.

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[iPhone] 20:38:34

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But if you don't have the courage. And the knowledge.

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[iPhone] 20:38:41

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Well, they say you have to have the brain. Courage, and your tin.

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Your tax identification number.

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All of you can do it.

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They all have the power. It's just that you have to organize.

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Your thoughts and organize what you're doing. And then, most importantly, you have to have a reputation.

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And the only way you get a reputation. This is when you start ruffling feathers.

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Honestly, guys, sometimes I think I'm in a freaking movie. You know, Jason, my son will tell you, he's… We've evolved into something far more than.

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You know, than what we could even imagine. Before, when we were just doing real estate, you know, and just doing my own stuff.

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[iPhone] 20:39:45

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Okay, so, um, I apologize. I had to vent, because sometimes I feel like.

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Uh…

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[iPhone] 20:39:58

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There's always that one side of your guys, all the people in there, they're like.

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[iPhone] 20:40:04

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Nobody can… I feel like some… nobody can see my side.

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[iPhone] 20:40:09

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Of when I'm looking for value. From everybody to give me value, and vice versa.

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[iPhone] 20:40:15

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And I feel like… Um, and not all the time, from everyone, because there's, there's, there's… you know, I'm just venting, guys.

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[iPhone] 20:40:26

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Sometimes I feel like it's just not worth it. As, you know, for the whole group.

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[iPhone] 20:40:34

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I'm just being honest. I feel like I'm not getting… you know, the reciprocation.

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[iPhone] 20:40:45

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But I'm not a quitter. That's… my Achilles heel.

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[iPhone] 20:40:53

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But for those of you who… have supported me, and… Whether it's emotionally or spiritually, or the contributions that.

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[iPhone] 20:41:03

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You guys are always on time, and… you know, it makes a… it does make a difference for me, you know, whether it's, like, you know.

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[iPhone] 20:41:12

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You know, so we… I think I said, somebody sent me something for a steak, you know, I was like.

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[iPhone] 20:41:17

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I did go eat the steak, by the way. It was a ribeye.

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[iPhone] 20:41:19

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But, I mean, those are the things that say, you know what, that's… That's really… It's really nice.

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[iPhone] 20:41:28

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And I ate it by myself. Because, you know, I don't have a date.

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[iPhone] 20:41:33

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And, uh. But I… if you can't enjoy your own company, right? Whose company can you really enjoy them?

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[iPhone] 20:41:40

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That was a good… it was a good ribeye. Asparagus. Broccoli.

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[luke ] 20:41:46

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Chris, the next tip I'm gonna give you is a free round of golf, so you have to play.

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[iPhone] 20:41:46

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Okay.

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[iPhone] 20:41:54

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Uh, hey, Luke, come on, man. I appreciate you. Um… So anyways, um…

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[iPhone] 20:42:04

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Um… this call is coming in. Uh, anybody have any questions? Uh, please, you know, now is the time.

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[iPhone] 20:42:13

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Uh, I'm gonna get a little bit more organized for the next meeting.

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[iPhone] 20:42:18

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Uh, probably want to go back into… 1099s and how to take care of your utilities.

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[iPhone] 20:42:26

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Working on some stuff right now with some people on their… on their houses.

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[iPhone] 20:42:31

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Uh, where, uh, I have… I'm really getting ready to go in for the kill.

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[iPhone] 20:42:39

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Uh, and then, you know, of course, when we get there, of course, we're going to report in and let everybody know how we did it, and I have some of you that are on hand.

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[iPhone] 20:42:47

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Some of you that are on the phone with me and whatnot, um… We're gonna get there. If I didn't believe that we weren't gonna get there, I would, you know… why would I even be doing any of this? I just… in my own…

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[iPhone] 20:43:02

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In my own thing. Uh, I'm not here to, you know.

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[iPhone] 20:43:08

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Why would I want to bullshit? I want shit done. That's what I want.

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[iPhone] 20:43:13

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So, uh, any questions, please raise up your hands. Jason? Yes.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:43:17

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Uh, did you want me to put the 96 form up?

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[iPhone] 20:43:22

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Uh, yes, show the 966 so everybody can look at it, please. Thank you, Raina.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:43:35

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Can everybody see it?

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[Chris Nero] 20:43:40

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Yes.

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[iPhone] 20:43:43

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Any questions on what this is? Pretty self-explanatory, but any questions?

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[iPhone] 20:43:53

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Of course, you're going to want to know how to fill it out.

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[iPhone] 20:43:56

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I'll put an example out there.

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[iPhone] 20:44:01

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I'll put a whole example of how I did it. And then for those of you who want to get a crack at it.

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[iPhone] 20:44:13

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Who might have stopped you?

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[iPhone] 20:44:19

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Everybody get a good look at it? Corporate… This solution, or… liquidation.

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[iPhone] 20:44:30

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And that's your endgame, people.

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[iPhone] 20:44:38

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Okay, so, uh, again, anybody want to raise up their hands for questions? If not.

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[iPhone] 20:44:46

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We're going on an hour. Jason, any questions?

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[iPhone] 20:44:55

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Jason Ibarra. Any statements?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:01

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Uh, that form… so that form typically. I mean, it's used for… just to give some context here.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:10

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That's an accounting form where… If you're in the public and you own a company, and you're gonna dissolve it.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:18

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You feel that?

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[iPhone] 20:45:18

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What's that… what's that… what's that, uh, Jason, what's that law firm that you're always… why… what's it called, Ogilvy, and what is it?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:25

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Wherever else is?

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[iPhone] 20:45:27

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Yeah, Weber OCs, that's for WeberOCs. So that you can, uh, liquidate them.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:34

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We'll have nothing to liquidate them on right now, so… Um, I don't think I'm at that point.

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[iPhone] 20:45:40

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Well, you got evidence. You've been… you've been silenced.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:42

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Yeah, but I don't have any judgments, I have…

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[iPhone] 20:45:46

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You don't need judgment. You've got to create your own judgments.

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[iPhone] 20:45:49

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You're not gonna get judgments from the court. You're gonna get your own judgment. That's called a notice.

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[iPhone] 20:45:56

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Default, the default. But this owner… So when you get there, that's how you're gonna, uh, liquidate them.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:45:57

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Yeah, we haven't sent the notice out yet.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:46:04

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But what… but to just… to give context here, that's a… that's normally in the public.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:46:10

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A form that you… that you file with the IRS and Treasury.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:46:14

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When you dissolve a corporation, correct?

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[iPhone] 20:46:17

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Uh, Jason, Nicole wants to know the, uh…

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[iPhone] 20:46:24

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Is she on, Nicole?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:46:27

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No.

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[iPhone] 20:46:29

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Jason? Am I Jason?

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[iPhone] 20:46:34

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Okay, but Jason, get Nicole on!

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[Chris Nero] 20:46:35

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I was trying to unmute. No, I already… I already messaged back and told me that it's still on.

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[Chris Nero] 20:46:42

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I am… I already am… I'm just waiting for… I already messaged her back.

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[iPhone] 20:46:42

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Okay, go ahead, Jason. Ibarra. Bara, what were you saying, Barbara?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:46:47

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Okay, so I'm just trying to get context here. So, that form is… you know, like, every other form that we use for 1099s and… OIDs and all that stuff.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:46:58

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And it's… we got two completely different uses. We're talking about public versus private, right?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:47:04

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So, you're talking about… you're gonna file a 966 and liquidate.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:47:09

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Or dissolve a corporation because… You've got a judgment against them, so what are they gonna do to… Like, what did, uh, Castle Mortgage, in your… in your situation, what do they do to try to fight you?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:47:23

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Because they're not just gonna lay down.

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[iPhone] 20:47:24

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Um… The CEO went to a judge.

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[iPhone] 20:47:27

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This is directly from their attorney. To try to take… the receivership back.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:47:31

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Mm-hmm.

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[iPhone] 20:47:35

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Of the money. And the judge would not let him do it.

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[iPhone] 20:47:42

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So they went under. And that CEO was a Chinese gentleman who.

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[iPhone] 20:47:48

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It's now on the run still. Probably back in China.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:47:52

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Yeah. So, because… because not every situation is going to be the same, similar to, like, the judgment you got.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:47:59

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Where they're taking you. I mean, I honestly, I can't even… I still can't… haven't had a time to follow.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:48:05

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How you're saying that they did an impossibility, but… It's not an impossibility if they're doing it. I know they can do whatever they want.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:48:13

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But our definition… The… what do you mean, who's they? Whatever you want to call them, Cabal, the… Elite… No, the one case where you're saying.

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[iPhone] 20:48:14

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Who's they?

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[iPhone] 20:48:21

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Oh, you're talking about the sheriffs?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:48:26

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They're trying to take the judgment away. The judge is, like.

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[iPhone] 20:48:29

Line 1421

Oh, yes, no, but that's a beautiful thing, Jason. That just shows the desperation. It's a beautiful thing.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:48:36

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I get that.

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[iPhone] 20:48:36

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And they're gonna… they won't get away with that. I'm going to the Pima County Recorder's Office to record that judgment. I'm gonna put.

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[iPhone] 20:48:43

Line 1430

I'm gonna… I'm gonna multiply it times 100,000. And you can't retract it, it's done.

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[iPhone] 20:48:51

Line 1433

Um, it's in private. I'll liquidate the judge. It doesn't matter.

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[iPhone] 20:48:56

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Whatever they're doing in the public doesn't mean anything to me.

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[iPhone] 20:49:00

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Nothing.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:49:01

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So then, question would be, like, say that that attorney who… because I think you said originally one of them had to recuse.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:49:08

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And then that… the judge, or the attorney that's defending that judge now.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:49:12

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What… so basically, doesn't that law firm become, like. A Webber OLCs, for lack of better words.

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[iPhone] 20:49:20

Line 1451

Uh, no, it just makes me go inside there. Where they have me at the United States District Court.

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[iPhone] 20:49:27

Line 1454

Thinking that because they… muscled a little judge over here at the Pima Consolidated Justice Court.

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[iPhone] 20:49:34

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They're gonna come inside here and, you know, just, uh, think that I'm ignorant to what they're gonna do, but that's a beautiful thing. I want that in that arena.

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[iPhone] 20:49:42

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And then the first thing I'm going to do with that new judge is I'm going to ask for their oath of office before they proceed.

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[iPhone] 20:49:48

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That judgment ain't going anywhere.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:49:51

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Okay, so… no, and I get it, that's… it's a… It's an active desk… they're desperate, I totally understand that.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:49:59

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But that's… let's linking back to, um… I mean…

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[iPhone] 20:50:01

Line 1472

But why wouldn't you… but why wouldn't you ask the obvious, everybody? Why wouldn't you ask, like, why wouldn't the judge just give us.

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[iPhone] 20:50:08

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His oath of office.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:50:10

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I think we know why. I don't think that's… it's an obvious answer. Why would we ask an obvious question?

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[iPhone] 20:50:18

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Uh, because you're asking all the other. Questions, and… As I told you before.

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[iPhone] 20:50:26

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Before you walk into the courtroom, you've already won. I've already won.

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[iPhone] 20:50:35

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You see, the judge… uh… is desperate.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:50:35

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Well.

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[iPhone] 20:50:42

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And… the desperate measures of him not giving his oath of office.

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[iPhone] 20:50:47

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Means that he is committing treason, which is punishable by debt.

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[iPhone] 20:50:53

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Hanging by… his neck on a noose till he's… dead… dead, dead.

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[iPhone] 20:51:02

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Got that line from, uh… Young guns, by the way.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:51:06

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Well.

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[iPhone] 20:51:07

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And… and that's… that's… What's that?

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:51:08

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Bailey Tyreek Corne. Military court.

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[iPhone] 20:51:13

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Yes. Go ahead, Laura.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:51:16

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Okay, so, just having casual conversation here until someone else has a better question, um… get… remember I… I let you know, like, so this is so weird, and I don't know the answers yet, but this… The county clerk for Cobb County, where I have a lot of cases started there.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:51:31

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Um, I mean, you can't make this shit up. I mean, she got indicted.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:51:37

Line 1523

There… she's in… she got booked in… now, this is all public news information, call it what you want, whether it's fake.

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[iPhone] 20:51:42

Line 1526

But didn't you file… didn't you file a bunch of paperwork?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:51:45

Line 1529

Nope, not against her.

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[iPhone] 20:51:48

Line 1532

But did you file it in Cobb County?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:51:51

Line 1535

Yeah, we filed… I mean, we… dude, I think we have… like, fucking 9 cases, I think.

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[iPhone] 20:51:57

Line 1538

Okay, so then what do you think happens when. When you have people going investigating in the private, they start looking under every nick and cranny, I told you.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:52:05

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Yeah, but we didn't file a 211 yet.

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[iPhone] 20:52:06

Line 1544

Nobody ever… It doesn't… Jason, when you file as many 1099s inside there, you never look… The problem with people is you're always… you're never looking at the… unobvious, the anomalies.

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[iPhone] 20:52:20

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If you file all that stuff inside there, then what do you think's gonna happen?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:52:20

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Alright, hold on.

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[iPhone] 20:52:24

Line 1553

They're gonna have people go inside there and say, what the hell's going on with these 1099s?

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[iPhone] 20:52:29

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And then you're gonna have people… I tell you right now, nobody will ever pass an audit.

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[iPhone] 20:52:33

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Nobody.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:52:34

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No, I get that completely. I'm not arguing one bit here. I'm not arguing.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:52:39

Line 1565

Anything. What I'm saying is. Okay, so let's, again, just for lack of… conversation here, nobody else has a question.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:52:48

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Um, I'll just use those couple examples. When I filed the open records request.

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[iPhone] 20:52:51

Line 1571

Okay, Tom. Tom. Proceed, Tom.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:52:57

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They sent me 17 files. Not one of… not one file or image.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:05

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That they sent, and they probably didn't think I was gonna open up every one.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:09

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Not one file, PDF, or TIFF image. Was the document or information I requested. So I sent them.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:18

Line 1583

Second request. Third request went today. A phone call went in today, and I'm like, what the hell is going on in Cobb County, guys?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:26

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Like, all I'm looking for… is I want to know who the fuck… This fucking attorney is… that showed up, and didn't want to give me her identification, tell me who she was.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:39

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So it's very simple. Who the fuck is she? Simple as that.

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[iPhone] 20:53:44

Line 1592

Hmm.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:44

Line 1595

So now… And I'm not… I mean, to your point, I'm not gonna stop until I figure out who Lakeisha… call your fucking call… whatever the fuck her name is.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:53:58

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I don't know who… I mean… Shit, now she won't even look at me if I saw her in court. Last time, she ignored me, because… She wasn't on the other case. I'm here just for exploratory reasons at this point, because.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:54:10

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Like, your point you said the other day, like, Jason, don't you want to go indict the judge?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:54:14

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Yeah, in a way, I kind of do now, because I'm like… You're wasting my time, because I'm asking for simple, simple information.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:54:23

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And nobody will give it. But, Chris, just to be honest with you.

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[iPhone] 20:54:27

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Then you're… then you're not. Then you're not.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:54:31

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I don't bel… I mean, unless you can tell me something differently, I don't think… I'm the reason why that woman got indicted.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:54:39

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I don't think I've even done anything against her yet. But I haven't… I haven't even gone to her yet, and filed anything.

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[iPhone] 20:54:49

Line 1619

Jason, you don't need to go direct target. When she's the head.

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[iPhone] 20:54:55

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Of Cobb County. And you file 9.

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[iPhone] 20:55:01

Line 1625

Uccs and 1099. They're a corporation. Like any corporation.

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[iPhone] 20:55:08

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You're gonna get eyes on it. And she's the head cheese.

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[iPhone] 20:55:15

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And that's the bottom line.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:55:18

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Well, remember… You have the 1099s through your trust.

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[iPhone] 20:55:23

Line 1637

But, like, I know it doesn't make a difference whether they're mine, they're yours, it's… they're filed in the damn records, Jason, that's my… And at some point, those are called non-negotiable instruments, which are debt instruments. They have liability in there.

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[iPhone] 20:55:37

Line 1640

That liability is called non-legal. Tender.

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[iPhone] 20:55:43

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And she's in charge. And that'll never change, because if you're at the top of the chain.

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[iPhone] 20:55:51

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Then somebody at the top is gonna be the fall guy.

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[iPhone] 20:55:55

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Because you got all that money inside there. All those 1099s we filed.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:56:01

Line 1652

Okay, so then… then you… then this has to be very similar, like you were saying before, to your… your default on the judge, because all they had to do was what?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:56:11

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All they had to do… was either dismissed to do their job or dismiss the case.

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[iPhone] 20:56:14

Line 1658

Was their job. But, like, the pharaoh.

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[iPhone] 20:56:22

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Proud. Prideful.

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:56:27

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See that? Yeah.

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[iPhone] 20:56:28

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Happens all the time. So there you go. Okay.

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[iPhone] 20:56:33

Line 1670

Anybody else? Thanks, Tom. Anybody else?

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:56:38

Line 1673

You're welcome. Come on, somebody has to have something, what the heck?

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[iPhone] 20:56:43

Line 1676

Tom, Tom, you've said enough! Tom!

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[Jason Ibarra] 20:56:46

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I'm trying to encourage.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:56:49

Line 1682

Uh, Chris, I actually do have a question. You say that with the 966.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:56:54

Line 1685

We gotta do a 2848, a 56, and a 56F. That would be, like, a new.

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[iPhone] 20:57:00

Line 1688

Yes. Yes. Yes.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:57:02

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2848 and 56.

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[iPhone] 20:57:05

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Yes, you're taking over the company. We are the stockholders.

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[iPhone] 20:57:09

Line 1697

They are insolvent. Your mortgage lender is insolvent.

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[iPhone] 20:57:14

Line 1700

Your mortgage servicing company is insolvent. They have now… they have debts that have become due when you… when you default them.

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[iPhone] 20:57:24

Line 1703

And you charge them. You have to give them a remedy.

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[iPhone] 20:57:27

Line 1706

He who seeks equity must do equity. If you don't give them a true bill.

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[iPhone] 20:57:32

Line 1709

And you don't charge them. Then you're not giving them remedy.

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[iPhone] 20:57:40

Line 1712

But because they're broke. Well, you're gonna have to take them down now.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:57:50

Line 1715

Copy that.

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[iPhone] 20:57:50

Line 1718

Okay, alright, so, uh… I'm gonna put some… some more stuff together.

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[iPhone] 20:57:57

Line 1721

Uh, as I, um… let you know what's going on with the FBI, with the CID.

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[iPhone] 20:58:03

Line 1724

Um, I'm gonna start some liquidation processes myself. Um… And I'll be in touch with each… individual that I'm doing, you know, things for.

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[iPhone] 20:58:16

Line 1727

Uh, for the remainder of the week. Uh, and uh… You guys have a good one. And have you guys… need to call me, or whatever, just text me and, you know, give me a 10-minute or 15-minute window.

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[iPhone] 20:58:32

Line 1730

Okay, guys. Take care.

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[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:58:33

Line 1733

Thank you, Chris.